Thanks Bill. That sounds like it was around the same time as the trouble we were having. Spaceweather.com didnt indicate any solar problems that I know of. I wonder what happened. Bill Burkett wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Gale, we were at the Point of Rocks cache on Mingus Mountain (GCKN5T) and had trouble with our Trusty eMap at about 1:45 today. It never told us that it couldn’t get a satellite signal, but it couldn’t figure out where it was, either. Tsegi Mike and Desert Viking Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so: "Something hidden. Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges -- "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!" Rudyard Kipling , The Explorer 1898 --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page