Right, and I'm just pointing out that he isn't the one slamming other people, telling people to get the heck out of here, etc. Heck, he's pretty much dropped out of sight as far as azgeocaching.com goes. This lynch mob of a group (well, not everyone) are the ones back with pitchforks and torches. So again (quoted for clarity): And this is your concern in what way? Were any of the TBs in question yours? Did the owners contact you and ask you to get involved? LazyK - Dan _____ From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Gale Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:50 AM To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] READ THIS CACHE SITE - Actually one long time cacher was attacked by highpointer in a cache log on another cache. He publically blasted them for a tb placement, in his role as self appointed tb police. I personally felt his public attack/ attempt at humiliation was completely uncalled for, especially since he publically announced on the listserv that same day that he didnt do things like that and would refrain from it in the future. "Koch, Dan" wrote: And now I ask you...and I quote: And this is your concern in what way? Were any of the TBs in question yours? Did the owners contact you and ask you to get involved? At least Highpointer is just playing the game, and not attacking anyone and everyone that doesn't play the same way. LazyK - Dan ________________________________________ From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of AZcachemeister Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 8:20 PM To: listserv@azgeocaching.com; ShadowAce Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] READ THIS CACHE SITE - ShadowAce wrote: Here is his reasons: - The travel bugs that I removed from this cache had been in the cache an average of 25 days each, and each of these travel bugs had been passed up by an average of 10 geocaching teams before I grabbed them. I took five travel bugs, but I immediately moved two of them to nearby caches later in the same day. I took pictures of those travel bugs and uploaded them to both my cache and travel bug log entries. Mr. Lowpointer: And this is your concern in what way? Were any of the TBs in question yours? Did the owners contact you and ask you to get involved? - There is no need for a travel bug hotel in this location. There are many geocaches nearby with regular-sized containers. This is not in the middle of the city but is near the edge of Tonto National Forest. There are over 50 caches within a five-mile radius of this location, and most of these caches have containers that are large enough to fit most travel bugs. It may take a little more effort, but if one has multiple travel bugs, isn't it better to put them in a variety of different caches rather than one single cache? Mr. Lowpointer: Perhaps there is no need for any Travel Bug Hotels, anywhere. The owner has chosen to call it a Travel Bug Hotel, and cachers have chosen to leave Travel Bugs in it. Certainly made things convenient for you, didn't it? - This cache is exposed and is very close to a street corner. The cache site is close enough to be seen by motorists who are stopped at the stop sign. Whenever I come here, I see new litter desosited in the area, and usually I pick some of it up. There is good chance that this cache could be found accidentally by a non-geocacher, who would likely take the cache and/or it contents, especially since the contents contain a large variety of music and computer CDs which is more valuable than the contents of most caches. I do not like to put travel bugs in caches that I feel are too exposed. Mr. Lowpointer: If you don't like the cache, or the location, STAY AWAY. Many caches in less accessible areas have come up missing, the contents are irrelevant. Not wanting to put a Travel Bug in does not give you the right to remove them all. - The geocacher who commented on what I did on the cache page has nearly 1,000 cache findings, but has more than 2,000 travel bug findings. I, on the other hand, have close to 1,600 cache findings, but I have less than 400 travel bug finds. Enough said. Mr. Lowpointer: What the hell does MaxB's find count and Travel Bug count (or how they compare to yours) have to do with ANYTHING? Max B seems to be interested in TRADING Travel Bugs. If he takes three, he leaves three. Thus assuring others will at least have some Travel Bugs available if that's what they're after. Now enough HAS been said. Ken Akerman (a.k.a. Highpointer) ____________________________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching Arizona's Geocaching Resource http://www.azgeocaching.com ____________________________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching Arizona's Geocaching Resource http://www.azgeocaching.com Tsegi Mike and Desert Viking Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so: "Something hidden. Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges -- "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!" Rudyard Kipling , The Explorer 1898 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com