Brian,
Since I don't know you, I get to go by what you put
in your messages. If you don't qualify a joke, sarcasm, etc., then people
will take it as face value. You can't expect anyone to do a background
check first. If you have a computer background then you should appreciate
that in digital communications like email and message posts that the onus is on
the sender to make their intentions clear because tone of voice just doesn't
come across.
I also do not see your point in the rules
nitpicking explanation you give. If Jeremy had to put down a rule for
every little thing you could and could not do in a cache, that would be his only
job. For example, there are laws that I am not allowed to vandalize
your property. Is there a law that speicifically says I cannot spraypaint
"DUMBASS" onto the front of your home in neon green paint in the middle of the
night? I doubt it. By your argument that should be okay since it
isn't an exact rule, so if you want to send me your address I'll hook you
up. :) Geocaching.com reserves the right to not approve
any caches they deem inappropriate, and that is the same catch-all as the
vandalism laws.
You do raise a valid point in that the cache
approved are not always consistent. If that becomes a problem then, as I
suggested originally, discuss it with Geocaching.com and point out
discrepency. But your bait and switch approach is still the wrong way to
go.
Glad to hear you support Geocaching.com in other
ways, however I notice that all of your purchases are things that benefit YOU
first, and happen to benefit Geocaching.com along the way. They make a few
bucks off of markup and commission, but you are still not actually saying "Hey,
you guys have helped give me a fun hobby so I will support you for that
alone". Jeremy has said they need more cash to pay the bills, and we
charter members are stepping up to cover the gap. You are not.
That's what gives me the right to say you are a mooch.
Jeff.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 7:00
PM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Caches -
Different Strokes For Different Folks
Jeff,
Apparently you are a very
uptight individual. The comment that was made about changing the cache
information was more sarcasm than a suggestion. If you knew me (which
you don't) I joke constantly about finding loopholes in systems and exploiting
them (I'm a computer geek, that's part of my
job). Does that mean I take action on it? No. It's
the cache owner's responsibility to follow the rules of
Geocaching.com. Do the rules state that a cache cannot be adult
oriented? No. Do the rules say that a cache cannot be modified to
be an adult cache? No. Therefore, was I telling anybody to break
any rules? No. If Jeremy didn't want adult caches, he would
have put that in the rules. The people who approve the caches are unpaid
individuals, not Jeremy. One day
you could get a person who would allow the adult oriented cache (see Put that in Your Pipe cache by Chicks With
Trucks http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=32238 for
an adult oriented cache), another day you would not.
As far as not financially supporting Geocaching.com, who are you to
tell us that we need a charter membership to be supporting
Geocaching.com? Team LeapLab (which I am a part of) has purchased
several Geocaching.com items that support the site as well as over $400 in
goods from OffRoute.com which in turn supports Geocaching.com. I'm sure
that many of the cachers in Arizona have done the same. I bet that the
cut Geocaching.com got for all of our purchases was far more than the
cost of a year's membership and we plan to make many more purchases as we get
more into Geocaching.
I do
respect your opinion, but I felt that you should hear my side of the story
before attacking me personally.
Brian