At 05:39 PM 6/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
I was sorry to learn that the person who apparently started the huge fire in Colorado was a Forest Service employee. If they can't trust their own, now they'll probably be even more suspicious of outsiders entering the forests!

I was a little surprised when that news broke.  As Fred pointed out in a previous message, this isn't the first time that this has happened.  When I was fighting forest fires back in Idaho we had one of the bosses get caught starting small fires after lightning storms so that he could get more overtime.  As for the forest service looking at us normal people with a suspicious eye, you are probably right, but that has been happening for quite a while anyway.  I have met some really great people who work for the Coronado, but I have also met some real jerks who seem to really resent us normal people being out in their forest.

I don't know when things changed, but I grew up with the Clearwater National Forest in Northern Idaho literally in my back yard.  I spent most of my first 20 years in that forest.  Back then you could go just about anywhere you wanted to, and the forest service employees were always very helpful and would even suggest places that we might want to try for hunting and fishing.  Now when I go back there most of the places that I have very fond memories of are gated off and there is no access to them.

PS: Scott Wood, I got a copy of the poster from Jason last week. Thanks for sending them up! We were camping in Sitgreaves (which is still largely open) this past weekend. I was so tempted to tape it to my car...

Your welcome.  We had a lot of fun with those.  We had them printed a couple weeks before the Mt. Lemmon fee went into effect.  On the first weekend there were people marching up and down the highway with them made into signs.  People had them posted all over their cars.  Someone even taped one to the toll booth where the workers there couldn't see it.

Since that has started, the fees have expanded to Sabino Canyon and Madera Canyon.  There has been talk about expanding even further to have a parking fee for anywhere in the Coronado National Forest.  For those interested, you might want to check out http://www.freeourforests.org/ it is mostly information about National Forests in California, but there is still some really good info.



Scott
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