This post by you doesnt indicate that you are ignoring it. It sounds like you spend time getting upset over how others play their way. Sounds like you are attempting to force your will on those whom you perceive as lazy. That isnt ignoring. --- On Tue, 12/30/08, PATRICK FINLEY wrote: From: PATRICK FINLEY Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Why I became a Premium Member To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 5:23 AM Steven....................I don't know how much clearer I can make this. I usually do IGNORE those types of caches and don't tend to seek them. It's not like I seek these types of caches and then complain about them. I can't say I never do them, but if I know where and what type of cache it is, I usually ignore them. I too, have time constraints, as most of us do. My post is directed at those who are just plain too lazy to get off their butts. My opinion is just as valuable as yours, and I tend to wonder why some of these same people have enough time to spend HOURS trying to solve a puzzle cache, but don't have time to get out and about. If that's what you choose to do, then have at it. And for those puzzle cachers out there, I'm not belittling puzzle caches. All I'm hoping to do is motivate some of you into placing a few caches in spots other than community parks , parking lots, etc. If you choose to love those types of caches, that's fine. I don't, and hope I've made my point of view clear.