Stupid question: were both caches on public property? Team Caballero (David and I) haven't tried to find either cache, so I don't know. If either was on private property, then this definitely isn't an official sticker, person or complaint. This is worrisome. I'd be hesitant to run into this person(s) at one of the cache. Maybe I'm overreacting, but this person doesn't seem very friendly. Melinda (1/2 of Team Caballero) From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Gale Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 5:45 PM To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] the sticker Anyone who was official would have left a contact number of some sort, or agency identification to make it more legitimate. Both caches are in different cities, yet the sticker is identical. Which agency would cover both cities like that? In the past, whenever park rangers have confiscated caches, they have either posted notes on the cache page stating why they did so, or contacted geocaching.com to stop this activity. This person is only stealing caches and placing this sticker. He or she is not doing everything they can to stop the activity (such as contacting the website or posting a note on the cache page). Given that he or she claims the cache is litter, he or she is doing the exact same thing by posting that sticker. No govt agency would do so without identifying themselves on the sticker. Any person can print stickers from their computer. I dont care for anyone who decides caches cant be placed and then seeks to steal caches, planting these stickers and basically ruining the fun of many folks just because he or she THINKS this isnt right. If they have the proper authority to do so, well fine, I can live with it. This one doesnt appear to have that authority tho, and that irks me. /rant Tsegi Mike and Desert Viking Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so: "Something hidden. Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges -- "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!" Rudyard Kipling , The Explorer 1898