I sure wish I would help you out, Jon. I am a recent transplant here and am pretty ignorant of what there is to know. On that note, I want to thank you Dirk because a lot of those links are really useful for me also! Btw Dirk, that little helicopter journey you had must have been something. Glad you are alright. That really is something to remember. Esteban (bakura82) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 19:23:38 -0700 From: shadowace.az@gmail.com To: listserv@azgeocaching.com; griggs@softhome.net Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Interloper in the Midst First.. here is a decent read about Southern Arizona and our lovely desert: http://sarci.org/safety.htm (From our Southern Arizona Rescue Association) *Table of Contents* Prepare For The Unexpected And Emergencies Carry Plenty Of Water And Drink It Beware Of Flash Floods Do Not Hike Alone Tell Someone Where You Are Going Avoid Cliffs And Waterfalls Be Prepared For Cold Weather Carry Proper Equipment And Use It Learn Key Outdoor Skills >From the desert museum http://www.desertmuseum.org/center/edu/faq_desert.php ENJOYING THE OUTDOORS - What might I bring on a hike to help me enjoy the desert? - What precautions should I take when hiking in the desert? - If I run out of water in the desert can I get some from a barrel cactus? - Are cactus spines poisonous? - Why don't I see very many animals when I hike in the desert? - How dangerous are Sonoran Desert toads? - If I find a desert tortoise while I'm hiking, would it be all right to take it home as a pet? - How can I avoid dangerous encounters with rattlesnakes and Gila monsters when I'm hiking? - Are there other venomous reptiles in the Sonoran Desert besides rattlesnakes and Gila monsters? - What is valley fever? - What precautions should I take when driving in the desert? - How can I minimize my impact on the desert? - What can I do to explore the desert When will you be in town? I am more then positive a group of our humble selves would be happy to meet and greet and offer advice or comfort :) Be advised that we are reaching record temps at this time of year and if you are planning hikes in the lower desert you will need to be very cautious of the weather and your ability to handle the heat. Feel free to get in touch with me if you are wanting to gather some information on our area. Can you get hurt out here? Welp.. You tell me :) http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LUID=e1f8800b-33ea-43d4-a395-86b98480c3c0 ShadowAce fall down go boom! ShadowAce / Dirk