Ok, So after viewing the evidence and weighing in on all the facts presented, I have come to the conclusion that there are a few options here. 1. Call it the Phoenix/Central AZ CITO coin and not the Arizona coin. Let it rest and be done with it. 2. Call it the Phoenix/Central AZ CITO coin and not the Arizona coin. Create a Tucson/Southern AZ CITO coin later...sort of an anual thing...2007 = Central...2008 = Southern and maybe we could do a CITO up north somewhere in 07/08 so that there could soon be a Northern AZ coin for 2009. 3. Change the coin (and remove the coords of the BeeLine Cache so as not to detract form the other sites) to reflect the whole state. 4. Give up...go home...forget about it...move on with life. I think JeepenJumpers said it best...and I quote " Unless we try to unite there is no State Coin, unless we group together, we have no State Saying". Just my opinion...getting off soap box now. Hope you all have a great day. BTW...I vote for option 2. I like the coin, but I dont think it should be an ARIZONA coin the way its laid out right now. As long as its either put out as a Phoenix/Central AZ coin, or changed to reflect the efforts of ALL Arizonans, then I'd buy one or four. On 2/20/07, Will wrote: > > I opened my e-mail today to give a Beeline CITO update and noticed the > string of e-mails on the coin. I'll add my two cents on those in a moment. > First my update… ADOT was out again today on our section of the Beeline… I > only counted four bags on both side this time. That stretch is definitely > clean! > > > > I'm also thinking of a cleanup on March 24th (unfortunately the only day I > have free for the first quarter). This conflicts with the camping event > though so I wanted to see if anyone would be around to participate. It > won't take many and I bet we have plenty of time for lunch after, so if you > would be interested in a Phx Beeline cleanup on March 24th please reply > here or directly to me. > > > > As for the coin design… I didn't take it that the intent was to slight > anyone, rather to remember the first CITO event in AZ. I also felt that by > posting it they were open to suggestions for changes. Having the Tucsonevents on the other side of the coin would certainly make it more of a > statewide coin. As far as I know these are the only two "adopted" sections > in the state. Please correct me if I'm wrong. > > > > Taking out the CITO always Cache reference would make it more acceptable. > But would it also make it less historic? If the intent of the coin is to > honor the first CITO event, and then have other coins representing other > events, then the coin is good as designed. If it is intended to honor all > AZ CITO efforts then maybe a design change is in order. Maybe add a listing > circling around the edge of the coin of all CITO events through 2006 (by > name or waypoint to make it fit). > > > > A coin series makes sense, but it would require someone to step up and > design/commission each new coin. It would also be more meaningful if there > was a design element that was consistent on each coin. This could also be > used on any subsequent AZ CITO coins. A good approach would be to work > together on the design which is what I thought the offer was in the first > place. Could we use the CITO logo on our coin somewhere? I didn't see it > and don't know if there would be any copyright issues. Maybe change the > finger pointing hiker to signal the frog! > > > > I also agree with AZTech. Phoenix has other opportunities for CITO > events. Tempe town Lake has an adopt-the- lake program, cities have > adopt-a-street programs. It doesn't have to be an adopted segment either. > I'm sure we could get a good turnout on an organized one time only event > somewhere where it is needed. > > > > Whatever design it turns out to be, the thought is a good one and I'm sure > I'll end up buying more than I need! > > > > Will > > Sport Trac/k > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com > To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com > > -- Thanx, Matt out