First of all, I did not even look at any charts or graphs to come to this decision, but I did use my head and have given this some thought. Besides, it's not like I am pulling all my caches without replacing them. I will be putting new ones out as the old ones get archived. True, this will not increase Arizona's total number of caches, but it will NOT decrease them, either. I am certainly not asking anyone else to follow this course of action, it is my decision alone and my right to do whatever I feel necessary to my caches to cut down on potential damage to the environment and prevent possible geo-litter. This includes putting a time limit on them. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software