I couldn't have said it better, and as an owner of a travel bug cache, a lot of similiar voices have been posted there as well. On rare occasions I have gone back to a cache specifically for a bug, but usually I might adjust my cache search route to do a new cache that has a bug in it. That was the original intent of the TB cache I placed when it was first hidden, and that primarily people would have a chance to find a bug that hadn't found one before. Unfortunately some cachers have visited the cache many, many times, and had, in my opinion, much more than their fair share. I can speak from experience that my travel bug cache requires a lot more maintenance because of the tendency of a few to remove travel bugs with out exchanging, yet few people leave TBs without taking something in return. And if the few do this repeatedly, I sometimes have a hard time keeping up. My $.02 Rob, Team CHUMP -----Original Message----- From: IFISHAZ@aol.com [mailto:IFISHAZ@aol.com] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 1:22 PM To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Revisiting caches over and over to get a TB? Ok, I could probably see that if the person was helping maintain the cache it could be ok, but without naming names, I know of a couple of cachers who do not help maintain the cache, doesn't even log on the cache page taking of the bug (only logs to the bug page), makes no trades for the bug thus lowering the inventory of the cache. Hense showing only an interest in getting bugs out of the cache with not much concern for the cache or cache owner. This is where I am having a problem seeing it as ok. Once again just my opinion, IFISHAZ.