Personally, I do not think of TBs as of object for trade. The sole intent of a TB is to travel. I treat finding a TB as I do finding a cache. I've taken several bugs out of a single cache and I've returned to a cache that I've visited before to retrieve a TB. Likewise, I will dropped several TBs of at single cache and I will revisit a cache to just to drop of a TB. I always note at the cache what I have done in the logbook and on the webpage. I think finding a TB is like logging a first find at a cache. Early bird gets the worm type of thing. Nobody complains when a single cacher bags several first finds the same day. If one feels that one must trade TBs, how does one acquire ones first TB? I can see why some do not like this behavior. There have been many times that I've gone for a cache hoping to grab a TB, only to have just missed it by an hour. Oh, well. I am bummed for about 1 msec and start digging for the log. To me that is part of the fun! It is like opening a log book hoping to be the first finder only to find a fellow cachers name in it (Uhmmm, I won't mention any names). Even more fun! -Rob (Wily Javelina) ----- Original Message ----- From: IFISHAZ@aol.com To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 12:03 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Revisiting caches over and over to get a TB? Hi all IFISHAZ here, Ok, well I feel this is a subject that needs some public debate (if it has had debate before, sorry it was before I became a geocacher). What is your (other cachers) feelings on geocachers returning to caches (sometimes very repeatedly) they have found previously just to get a Travel Bug? I personally think it is wrong, once you have found a cache there is no fun / adventure / difficulty, to keep going back to it. Also by returning to a cache you know where it is to get a TB, you cut chances of a new visitor to that cache having a legitimate find of a TB. Also it cuts down potential new visitors to a cache who may have went looking for a bug, but it is gone because a cacher who has been there before takes it. I think that finding geocaches should be the main goal and if you get a TB when you find a cache, cool bonus. Not find geocaches so you can locate them and rush straight to them when a TB has been placed and grab it. Just my opinion, IFISHAZ.