Ok, I could probably see that if the person was helping maintain the cache it could be ok, but without naming names, I know of a couple of cachers who do not help maintain the cache, doesn't even log on the cache page taking of the bug (only logs to the bug page), makes no trades for the bug thus lowering the inventory of the cache. Hense showing only an interest in getting bugs out of the cache with not much concern for the cache or cache owner. This is where I am having a problem seeing it as ok. Once again just my opinion, IFISHAZ.