It's quite possible that this cacher does legitimately find some caches; but logs many more than he actually found on the site. Rand's suggestion to e-mail the cacher with specific questions would probably the only way to tell. Aus Dem Kasten -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Ayre Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 3:30 PM To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] cheater/not cheater I assumed (and still do) that Gale was referring to the next entry which indicates this person went caching with someone else. Gale - is that right? Andy -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of RAND HARDIN Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 3:07 PM To: AZ-Geocaching Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] cheater/not cheater Gale, Just because a person states "Nice location!" on the cache page doesn't mean that the individual found the cache. In the case of the cache that you reference, I could look at the map and determine the cache is located in a "nice location." It's also possible the individual may be driving to/past the caches without actually finding them, but is claiming them as a virtual. I believe it's understood that a log book/sheet must be signed at the cache location to claim a find on the web page (unless the cache is actually a virtual and/or has other rules for claiming a find). I have no objection to a cache owner deleting an entry if there is no proof that the individual actually found the cache. If there is a question from a cache owner, an email to the individual asking to explain where and how the cache was found and/or asking for a description of the cache should clear up some doubt. Rand ----- Original Message ----- From: gale 'Desert Viking' Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:10 PM To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] cheater/not cheater If this is the person you are referring to, check out this log entry for Feb/2002. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=10655 &log=y&decrypt= There's another one I remember seeing that may exhonerate him. I'm still looking for it.