I agree with Scott.  I have no problem if a cache owner wants to have a members only cache (as long as it starts out as a members only cache).  I think it is inconsiderate to fellow cachers if a cache owner changes a non-members only cache to a members only cache after it had been found by non-members.  I feel I have an investment in every cache I find and to have my investment taken from me is irritating.  I too enjoy following the Arizona stats and do not seek out-of-state caches.  I too am like Scott when it comes to my log entries.  Sometimes I enjoy writing lengthy notes about my adventure.  I am always going back and re-reading my (and others) comments.  We talk about how irritating it is to have our caches stolen or plundered . . . it is equally irritating to have our "finds" (our investments) stolen from us and our access denied to a cache that we have previously found because we choose not to become a Premium Member.

Rand (RandMan)   

----- Original Message -----
From: RopingThe Wind
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 9:30 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ramblin' RTW

The other thing that is really irritating me is the fact that I have lost  
several caches to my stats because they became members only after I had  
already found it. I beleive a cache should not be changed over to a MO cache  
after it was originally available to all. It screws up my numbers (yes, I am  
into the numbers). I only cache in Arizona, so there should be no 'finds' in  
my out of state column. I understand this issue is tough to resolve.. but, I  
dont fault azgeocaching.com for it... I understand their situation with it  
and why they cant correct this problem. There have been a few other cachers  
who have mentioned this as well. So, for all those cache owners who choose  
to change their caches over midlife to a MO cache.. help Brian and Jason out  
so they dont have to deal with that issue. Leave your old caches the way  
they were and make your new caches MO if you want to, then I will just not  
go seek out those new caches. It will also keep the stats orderly and  
simple.

Also.. and most importantly.. the thing that irritates me most about this  
situation is that I can no longer view my log (my diary if you will) on a  
given cache that I found that has since become members only. Most people who  
know me sometimes joke about my lengthy logs on caches. Well, those logs are  
basically my diary of my experiences at that cache. That 'experience' is now  
lost forever as I cant go back and read about it anymore. I like clicking on  
the old caches that I have visited a year or two ago and reading my log and  
reading some of the later logs on that cache. Now I cannot do that as the  
owner has made it a members only cache. I now would have to pay for that  
privelege if I want to view them.  


Scott
Team RTW