Personally I think this kind of thing goes with Geocaching. You don't hear of people who take up skateboarding complaining of grazed knees and how it has totally spoilt it for them. Leaving things lying around for whatever reason invites people to take them. Accept it and have fun with Geocaching. If you don't like it then just seek caches. You cannot exclude the people who are selfish, rude, childish and inconsiderate from a public activity unfortunately. Andy -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of gale and mike Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 5:33 PM To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Cache Pirates "You raise an interesting point. Exactly what crime has been committed here? It would be really hard to call this theft when it comes right down to it. None of the items are of any real value, and they are things that people have intentionally left out for other people to take. " No he is not commiting a crime, which is why I did not suggest charging him with crimes. However he does seem to be abusing the privileges of the website and he upset at least one new Arizona cacher who wrote on the forums last night that their family loves this sport and now some creep has to spoil it. They seemed quite upset. All I did was ask TPTB to check him out. I seem to recall hearing that they've limited someone's access to the website for doing this before. Since there is no crime, and you don't care about the McToys, would you prefer all geocachers ignore what he is doing? And since when does something have to be a crime before it is considered unacceptable behavior? What ever happened to good manners? What's the difference between plundering a cache and stealing the ammo can, leaving the only the logbook behind? Some of you are upset when that happens, yet they can be replaced for only a few dollars. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online ____________________________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching Arizona's Geocaching Resource http://www.azgeocaching.com