Many of you that have been doing this for quite some time seem to just know some of this stuff, and not really pass it on to the newer hiders and not all of it is clear on the main geocaching.com website. Some are local Az rules, which some may not know they can find on the azgeocaching site. All true, but if you ask for permission before hiding a cache, then you will find out what the rules are for that location. And the rule about asking for permission is pretty clearly stated on the geocaching.com web site. Steve Team Tierra Buena