Is there anyway that the people that approve caches could not approve these kind being placed in the wilderness? It's not practical, unfortunately. We can't keep track of all the different rules for all of the different agencies just in Arizona, and we live here. Much less would they know, for instance, where one agency's land ends and another begins. For instance, I challenge anyone who has done the "McDowell Cache" in Scottsdale to tell me with certainty whether it's on State Trust land or McDowell-Sonoran Land Trust land. And, trust me, those two caching policies are very different. And they would have to do it on a national, if not worldwide, level. I think you can see the difficulty. There have been requests voiced for local approvers, but the folks at geocaching.com don't seem ready to go there. That doesn't surprise me. If they start doing that, at that point they're probably taking on some legal responsibility for the placement of caches that I wouldn't want if I were running the show. They do, however, look for and disallow physical caches placed without permission on National Park Service property, but I can think of at least one instance where they accidentally let one slip through. Steve Team Tierra Buena