Personally, I don't have a problem with entrance fees as long as they
are publicly funded facilities (State, National Parks, even the State
Land Trust Permit). Arcosanti is private, and if you had to pay their
fee to get to a cache, personally I'd have a problem with that. Remember
when the geocaching.com administration got bent because they were afraid
that Darsante had placed a cache inside a Blockbuster store (turned out
it was outside, but nearby).
 
I DO in fact consider G-O BOB a "commercial" cache; it's one reason I
haven't tried it. But I'm not going to try to persuade anyone to not go
for it. If I ever find myself inside the ballpark I'd probably look for
it then. And as you so rightly point out, everyone has the right to not
go to any cache. If the folks at Arcosanti did place a cache that you
had to pay to get to, I'd probably just add it to my list of caches I'm
not likely to ever try. "Lost Ark" is on that list, too, and that
doesn't cost anything to get to. It's there for a different reason: it
looks too hard! 

Steve
Team Tierra Buena
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". -- Dave
Barry

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From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of
GREGG OBUCH
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 9:04 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Trespassing?



I think I know which cache you are referencing, but when I did it the
cache container was loaded with quarters.  


I've been to quite a few caches where an entrance fee was required.
Usually these are state parks.  What about the virtuals in the National
Parks?  One of the most educational and enjoyable caches we did was a
virtual in a National Park.  What about the G-O BOB cache? Are those to
be considered commercial caches? 


I'm sure there are other examples, but we always have the option to not
do a particular cache. 


Gregg of MO & GO 


 WOLFB8 <Wolfb8@cox.net> wrote: 


of course not....I told them about that.... 
 
That bring me to something I ran across today when doing a couple cache
in Tucson while waiting for the pup to have surgery.... what about
caches hidden in thing you have to pay for in order to log the
find....to me those would be commercial  also... just a thought
We will be known by the tracks we leave behind