I seem to remember a post by Wyle E about the different types of public land and the requirements to use each one. I checked the listserv archive and it went something like this: By: "Larry Farquhar" Subject: [1022] Land Permits These are permits I'm aware of to access OUR land in Arizona: BLM land - no permit required. Just abide by trail and road closure signs. 14 day free camping allowed in most areas. Indian Reservations - Each reservation has their own rules and possible permits required for access to their land. Contact the appropriate Indian Reservation for their specific requirements. Arizona State Trust Land - A recreational permit is required if accessing State Trust Land for other than hunting (hunting permit is valid) or just passing through. An annual permit is $15 for individual, or $20 for a family. This allows you access to most State Trust Land for recreational use, including Camping (7 day limit), Horseback riding, Off Highway, Photography, Picnicking, Hiking, and Bicycling. $500 (max) fine if caught without a permit. Most areas, even those marked "No trespassing" can be accessed with this permit. Along with the permit comes a list of areas that are closed. Permits can be obtained by mail or in person at: Arizona State Trust Land Department, 1616 W. Adams, Phoenix, AZ, 85007 (might try 602-542-7235). Tucson also has an office (address unknown). Forest Service - The Bull-Dog Canyon Off-Highway Area (Tonto National Forest) is an area that requires a permit to operate a motorized vehicle in the area. Hiking and camping are allowed without a permit. Permits are free, and are good for 6 months. $5000 (max) fine if caught driving in the area without a permit. The permit provides you with the combination to the gates for 6 months (combo is changed each month). Permits can be obtained ONLY at: Mesa Ranger District Office, 26 N. MacDonald, Mesa, AZ 85201 (480-610-3300 - call first, as they have weird office hours). Permits might be obtained by mail - call them. Barry M. Goldwater Range/Cabeza Preita National Wildlife Refuge/Area A portion of Sonoran Desert National Monument - A permit is required for ANY access (foot or vehicle) to this area, also known as "El Camino Del Diablo" (see cache GC294C http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=10572). The permit is free and good from July through June. See cache GC294C for further details and where permits can be obtained. There might be other permits available, but these are the ones I'm aware of and have obtained the last 3. Anybody know of others? Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: Richard Pinnell [mailto:rpinnell909@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 9:26 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: What have we learned? >I would like to see some >helpful guidelines to geocaching in arizona, complete with phonenumbers >and locations to buy permits, what specific things the different land >management entities would like us to do and not do. This would be great for us newbies. Team Gizmo