Just so you are not taken by surprise tomorrow when you look at your stats.. I have made a lot of my caches member only today..... so if you have some on your to-do list do not delete the waypoint since they will not be there I will make them public again when this blows over Libby We will be known by the tracks we leave behind ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Renner To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 9:10 AM Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Destruction of geological site(s?) I found the newspaper article very one sided and blown way out of proportion. I think it was written with the intent of grabbing attention and selling papers and not with the intent of providing true and accurate information. It did not mention if any of the archeologic sites were open to the public such as Libby's Casa Grande Ruins cache or Ken's A Sign From The Past IV cache at Sears-Kay ruins near Seven Springs. If those are any of the 18 caches at or near archeologic sites, then the article is blatently misleading. There was no mention of the Cache-In, Trash-Out program and the good it has done at many cache sites. One other thing that wasn't mentioned is the fact that there are numerous other sources of information about archeological sites that can be used by those intent on plundering. A quick search found the following books available at Amazon.com that most likely mention remote sites. 1. Ancient Treasures of the Southwest: A Guide to Archeological Sites and Museums in Arizona, Southern Colorado, New Mexico, and Utah, by Franklin Folsom, Mary Elting Folsom (Contributor), Rachel Folsom (Illustrator) 2. Ancient Ruins of the Southwest: An Archaeological Guide by David Grant Noble (Photographer), Brad Melton (Editor) 3. The Archaeology of Ancient Arizona by James Jefferson Reid, Stephanie Whittlesey, Jefferson Reid And finally, there are companies that provide tours of Arizona's backcountry and point out such sites. http://www.pinkjeep.com/ "History enthusiasts will be awed by the opportunity to visit Authentic Native American Ruin sites, a very unique Sedona tour." http://www.archaeologicadventures.com/ "We offer our guests the unique opportunity to probe the mysteries of the past, to touch history and feel it come alive while participating in a hands-on working field program to map and record unexplored archaeological sites." Bob Renner __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching Arizona's Geocaching Resource http://www.azgeocaching.com