I apologize if this is considered off-topic; please feel free to reply privately to prevent cluttering other people's inboxes. We've gone on several geocaching expeditions up on the Mogollon Rim. We take Highway 87 north out of Payson, through Pine/Strawberry, and take the Rim Road/Forest Rd. 300 turnoff. While up there we've seen people camping off of the forest service roads up there. There's a small creek up there that runs (sometimes; I'm assuming only when it's rained or the snow is melting). I'm not talking about a designated camping area (we've seen those, too). The area I'm talking about would be just across the forest road from this cache: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?wp=GCWN3P&Submit6=Go (GCWN3P if the link didn't work). Does anyone know where I'm talking about? If so, do you know how/where I would find out what I need to be able to legally camp there in terms of permits, etc.? I know just because I saw other people doing it doesn't mean it was ok. Also would like to know how to find out what fire bans may be in place. I tried doing some Google searches, but could only seem to find information about specific campgrounds. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Just took a look at my cache log and it's been nearly 2 years since I logged a find. Very, very sad. I want to get the kids up to do some caching and camping this summer. Thanks, -Lisa "PoledraDog" ____________________________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching Arizona's Geocaching Resource http://www.azgeocaching.com