The whole dragging deadfall across the road to prevent travel is something that our club does to kill rogue ATV trails, with the blessing of the national forest staff we work with in doing trail maintenance on our club adopted trails, such as the Morrison. http://tinyurl.com/dfj576 We've done similar and larger stuff, winching trees far too heavy to move, and have been back a year or two years later and found the trails we blocked nearly completely healed. Apparently, ethical riders/drivers aren't lazy, but the rogue riders sure as hell are. :) Brian Team A.I. -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Jason West Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 18:31 To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Proposed changes to Coronado national forest roads I have seen roads in Coconino National Forest that were closed and they could not be walked on. that is because they ripped the road with a dozer and cut trees down and dragged them across the road. see attached. this causes much more impact then just simply closing the road. Most of these roads that are closed should not be closed at all. it is already there and driving down them does not really cause any real harm. close a road like the picture attached and not only is it closed to us the taxpayers but firefighters cant even get in there. j On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:10 PM , AZcachemeister wrote: > I don't know if the longest road slated to be closed leads to a cache > or not, but an extra 0.77 mile hike on a closed road (assuming we can > walk on the 'closed road') would only add about a half star for > terrain, IMNSHO. > > ACM > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > ShadowAce wrote: >> Sent to the AZList as well as AZPaul, Carmel, Bugmann, Cog&Gil and >> HornyToad... >> (Please resend to friends who use the forest roads of the Coronado >> national forest) >> >> I was contacted by a friend today with questions about some of the >> forest service roads inn the Catalina mountain range and whilee >> speaking with different rangers, I was informed that a scoping change >> is in affect. >> >> For all those interested, the public has until April 15th to comment >> it appears.. As such, if you have feelings on this or know friends >> and family in the area, please help spread the word. >> >> >> http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/coronado/travel/proposed-change-scoping-03112 >> 009.pdf This is a link to the PDF file which explains the changes >> >> >> http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/coronado/travel/scrd-scoping-notice-03112009. >> shtml This is the link to the webpage which discusses the topic. >> >> I already know of one cache that will be a bit more difficult to >> reach if one of the roads gets decommissioned. Simply means a longer >> walk, but cache owners may want to know (I emailed them directly as >> well). >> >> Please help spread the word.. The rangers were nice enough to point >> this out to me and I ask that you help let others know. >> >> Thanks >> >> ShadowAce / Dirk >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com To edit your >> setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: >> http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching >> >> Arizona's Geocaching Resource >> http://www.azgeocaching.com >> > > > ------------------------------ > > ____________________________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com To edit your > setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com DISCLAIMER: This message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender at either the e-mail address or by calling the telephone number associated with this transmission. Please delete this e-mail from your computer (or discard this fax). Thank You. ____________________________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching Arizona's Geocaching Resource http://www.azgeocaching.com