Very nicely said. ----- Arizona Geocaching ----- ----- Where difficulty is measured in degrees ----- Steven Stringham wrote: > Hear, hear. > > While I have found my share of urban caches, I also have found a few > (much fewer) rural/wilderness caches. I have found enjoyment in both. > Some caches are urban, some wilderness. I have found both to be of > interest. > > I have placed both types. I get thanks for both. > > Just because you have time/desire/funds/vehicles/resources/etc. to go > out into the wilderness for your caches, does not mean the next cacher > does. When the opportunities present themselves, or plans are able to > make it a choice, I love to go get the more rural/remote cache. They > are of great interest to me. But, due to other my > time/resource/priority constraints, I am not able to go get them every > weekend/day. Am I not to be able to go get the local cache challenge? > Yes, some of them are less challenging than others. So what? > > Please remember, as enjoyable as this sport/hobby/game is, it is not > the be all and end all of life. Family (wife, kids, parents etc.) do > take a higher priority. Work/church needs to be attended to. Caching > is a fun way to enhance life, not take it over. > > Steven Stringham > StringCachers > > > AZPAUL wrote: >> Oh hell, here we go again. It seems that we just had this discussion >> last week. I don't know why some cachers think that the way they play >> the game is the only way to play it. If you don't like urban caches than >> don't do them, its that simple. >> >> Besides, who are we to say which caches have value or not. If a cache >> has given a cacher some fun and enjoyment finding it, then it has value. >> >> AZPAUL >> >> ----- Arizona Geocaching ----- >> ----- Where difficulty is measured in degrees ----- >> >> >> >> PATRICK FINLEY wrote: >> >>> Very nicely put, Regan. There seems to be a whole generation of >>> cachers who think lite pole caches and park bench/playground caches >>> are the norm nowadays. I had the pleasure of sitting down with Jeff >>> (Team 360) JR (team AJ.JR ) and Dave Ulmer a few years back, and was a >>> little surprised with Daves take on the sport of geocaching that he >>> gave birth to. Strangely enough, I remember him saying that he had no >>> idea that geocaching would have become so big (with the help of >>> Jeremy) and that he really didn't keep up with the game a whole lot. >>> At that time he was travelling around the country in his motorhome and >>> must have driven by a whole plethora of caches everyday. Maybe it was >>> just my take on what he said, but I got the distinct feeling he wasn't >>> too receptive of the idea of many of the urban/city caches being >>> placed at that time. I wonder what his feelings are today? I hear >>> about cachers with physical limitations, and I'm sure there are quite >>> a few cachers out there with legitimate physical disabilities, but >>> there's also a bunch of "lazy" cachers out there who spend way too >>> much time sitting on their butt playing on the computer, by >>> choice. Some of those cachers have limitations like being way too fat >>> (bad knees, etc.) or just totally out of shape from sitting on their >>> rears. Hands-On Cachers have a cache near Montana Mountain that is >>> named "Get off the Couch, and Cache" (GC1JQY7) which says it all, as >>> far as I'm concerned. I think many urban park/parking lot/electrical >>> boxes/sprinkler head cachers use the excuse that these caches are >>> hidden for those who just can't do the hiking or off-road caches due >>> to physical limitations, wrong vehicle, or time constraints. That's >>> baloney. I feel empathy for those who really are handicapped, but that >>> group of cachers is a very small minority of the total caching crowd. >>> For those who have ventured out in the desert or mountains to seek a >>> hiking/off road cache, my hat's off to you. The feeling of actually >>> having to put forth some effort to get to one of these caches >>> is wonderful, and beats doing 25-50 urban caches, hands down. I still >>> do a few urban caches, if I'm in the mood, but enjoy the caches placed >>> in the boonies a whole lot more. AZcachemeister and AZgeckogirl, as >>> well as AJ.JR , TEF, 360, ShadowAce,Desert Rhino, Sprocket 1980, >>> Roping-the-Wind, Team A.I., Highpointer, Hands-On Cachers, Just Hike >>> and quite a few others place mostly caches that include some effort to >>> get to, a scenic location, and a sense of accomplishment. I know the >>> numbers thing is attractive to quite a few cachers, as we got caught >>> up in it in the "early" days, but do we need "power trails" such >>> as Redundant #1 thru #100? There seems to be a rash of cachers placing >>> caches .10 apart, with little, or no value, other than to pump up the >>> numbers. Just because you have more finds than somebody else doesn't >>> mean that you're a better cacher, or that folks respect you more. >>> Arizona Ranger Team has quite a few less finds than I Do, but >>> I respect their sense of adventure, and the type of caches they >>> pursue. Anyway, I hope I haven't stepped on too many toes, and want to >>> thank all of those cachers who place hides that have some true >>> value............... >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* Regan Smith >>> *To:* listserv@azgeocaching.com >>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 27, 2008 11:51 AM >>> *Subject:* [Az-Geocaching] Why I became a Premium Member >>> >>> Ya Know I really didn't want to pay for a Premium Membership, as >>> for the many years prior Geocaching was about the Geo taking the >>> GPS putting in coordinates and finding a cache outside.. >>> >>> Now as if a bad plague I felt it very necessary for me to pay to >>> Ignore armchair caching, Have all the good stand alone caching >>> locations been taken that you have to add sitting infront of the >>> computer playing math and phone games before going out to enjoy >>> the outdoors. Has climate change done so much to ruin wanting to >>> spend time outside???? >>> >>> When Dave Ulmer hid his cache he said come and find it, now how >>> many take the trip to see that spot??.. Yes times change but the >>> principle of here is a cache and go find it should not be perverted. >>> >>> >>> I was told by Alex months ago if you do not like that type of hide >>> why hide one like it? I so want to hide a more devious cache page >>> cache so all the minority cachers can bitch and moan at their lack >>> of understanding my logic but will not pervert the game any more. >>> but the lock and cable will remain.... >>> >>> Just like giving the challenge to a few other cacher about >>> stepping up their game I will add now Keep it up. >>> >>> >>> Thanks ACM for the enlightenment of the Ignore button >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com >>> To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: >>> http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching >>> >>> Arizona's Geocaching Resource >>> http://www.azgeocaching.com >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com >>> To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: >>> http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching >>> >>> Arizona's Geocaching Resource >>> http://www.azgeocaching.com >>> >>> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com >> To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: >> http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching >> >> Arizona's Geocaching Resource >> http://www.azgeocaching.com >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ____________________________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com > To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com >