> If a statewide org is not possible due to distances, different concerns, etc. then perhaps a "Regional Caching Support" site could be set up? The aim would be to provide information and guidance to the various groups in the state. > For example an online database of the different rules in AZ for the different land types. Contact information for permission to place caches, etc. The org could also provide any necessary forms for applying to place a cache. > So rather than representing anyone, just a central repository of information that helps regional groups to function. Andy, I agree. If there are going to be successful organizations in Arizona, they need to be regional. And there are some groups in the state that have shown that to be true. As for the online database you propose, http://www.geocachingpolicy.org has been trying to do just that for four or five years now, not just for Arizona but for the US and Canada. The problem is that gc.com, for whatever reason, will have none of it, so the site has generally languished, though it has been quite successful in Iowa. Thanks to the efforts of the Iowa Geocaching Organization (IGO), some 60 of the state's 99 county conservation boards list their caching policies there as well as the state Department of Natural Resource and one or two municipalities. By contrast, Arizona has about five listings statewide. The site will list policies, contact information, and forms for download for any verifiable agency or facility. All the posted data is searchable. And it represents no one. All that has been missing (other than support from gc.com, and that battle has already been fought and lost) are the submissions and the people to do the toil -- data entry, "marketing", etc. You've got your database; now, who will get the data? Steve Team Tierra Buena