If a statewide org is not possible due to distances, different concerns, etc. then perhaps a "Regional Caching Support" site could be set up? The aim would be to provide information and guidance to the various groups in the state. For example an online database of the different rules in AZ for the different land types. Contact information for permission to place caches, etc. The org could also provide any necessary forms for applying to place a cache. So rather than representing anyone, just a central repository of information that helps regional groups to function. It could even allow each regional group to host a website/subdomain, perhaps using a template (a la MySpace), along with it's own forum, notice board, events, etc.. This would make it even easier for someone to set up their own regional group. Andy -- Andy PGP Key ID: 0xDC1B5864