The geocacher who placed the altoid tin says he "wished others had told him this was not a good place to put a cache". I can only laugh at that statement. The gc.com site clearly states that you must get permission to place a cache on private property!!! Did he not read that little tidbit of information? Typical of alot of urban cache hides. Is he now trying to put it onto the geocaching community as a whole? Making the whole game/community look bad? I do agree though that law enforcement over reacted... kinda like the little Boston cartoon 'bomb' scare thing. The other thing that comes to my mind is that he is relatively new to the game and this is most of what he has seen so far... a bunch of altoid tins behind stores and on electrical boxes and the like. So, he might have thought it was totally ok to hide a cache like this... even though, as I mentioned before, he should have gotten permission to place it in the first place. I do like this quote though: "I've discovered that I really don't like urban caching. I'd rather do it in the woods. That's where it's really fun," he said. As of the past month and a half now, I have not found an urban cache hide. I dont mind going a week without finding a cache anymore. But I have decided that I only want to do rural area caches. Caches that require a hike to get to or maybe a nice 4x4 drive or maybe just a drive by cache placed in a beautiful location way outside the city limit signs. Or maybe caches placed in small towns is ok too. Basically, caches placed with the location in mind. I have been using the DGP geocaching site lately to pick and choose caches to find. The past month or so, I have found a much greater enjoyement for the game again. It feels like the old days of caching 4 or 5 years ago when I first began. I can't say I will never find an urban cache again. But I am carefully picking and choosing which ones I want to find. Scott Team Ropingthewind _________________________________________________________________ Laugh, share and connect with Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=hmtagline ____________________________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching Arizona's Geocaching Resource http://www.azgeocaching.com