Why I am NOT thinking of public retirement: ;) I use to be one of those cachers who was very competitive with the hobby. I have always competed thru life in a couple of different sports, so when I found out about the rankings on azgeocaching.com, it was natural for me to want to try and 'go for it' and get to #1. For me, getting to #1 was more of a personal goal. After almost 3 1/2 years or so of geocaching, I achieved my goal and held it for about 8 months. I then picked it up again for a short time, going back and forth with Sprocket. I eventually let it slide and never really had an interest in it again. There were some up and comers that were really hitting caches hard and I wouldnt have been able to keep up. So I didnt bother trying! I already did it! Been there, done that, dont need to do it again! I reached my goal of #1 and I did it staying within the guidelines I set (no locationless, no 'armchair' caching and my name was in every single logbook of every single cache I ever found). Today, I have absolutely no interest in the numbers thing anymore. I cache strictly for fun. After another great summer in Sedona, I was out doing the kinds of caches I enjoy doing most.... wilderness style caches. Hiking, off roading and caching. Great cache locations chosen by the hider with the 'location' in mind. I agree with Bill on the urban caches. I dont care much for them either. But when I am bored, it is fun to go out and find a few. It is also a great way to break an otherwise boring errand run or something as there always seems to be a cache along the way to make a quick find and go. By quick, I mean quick! I dont think I have spent more than 10 minutes or so searching for an urban cache in a long time. If I cant find it in 10 minutes... I move on. I dont need to find every single one anymore. I have driven within feet of several urban caches lately that I wasnt motivated to stop and look for it. 2 years ago, I wouldnt have been able to do that! If I deem an urban cache to be hidden in a questionable location, I will simply pass it up. Nowadays, I simply download all 'regular' caches into my GPS and go out and find a few, either while out on an errand or while out on business or just in the mood to drive around and find a few caches. No PDA cache info/printouts. Just coordinates in the GPS. Thats how I have been doing it for several months now. Geocaching was fun for me then when I was doing it to attain #1 in the rankings and today, with no interest in numbers at all, it is still fun for me. It is perhaps a bit more fun today as I just pick and chose the caches that I want to go find. Scott Team Ropingthewind >From: "Bill Nolan" <> >An interesting comment. I cannot disagree. My wife and I have enjoyed >geocaching for a long time now. When we started, the top team in AZ was >under 500 finds. We found some aspects of the game to be overcompetitive, >so we just don't log our finds. For us, the fun is the search, and in the >back country places the search takes us. (We have never looked for or >found >an "urban" cache.) What we do is not better or worse than the way others >play the game. It is just different. Some like the competition of being >FTF on a cache. Others like the numbers. I am reminded of golf. Some say >it is a contest against yourself. Can you play better than you have >before? >Not me. I prefered to beat the guys I was playing with. For me, golf was >a >very competitive game. (I seldom actually beat the guys I was playing >with, >but that's another story.) Now, for those to whom the numbers are >important, having a cache deleted for no good reason is a big deal. Others >couldn't care less. Who's right? Both, because they are playing the game >for different reasons and with different goals. > >If you are having fun, then the way you are playing works for you. If you >aren't, go to the movies instead. In fact, go to the movies in Willcox, >where, by coincidence, I own the theater. > >Bill in Willcox. _________________________________________________________________ Add a Yahoo! contact to Windows Live Messenger for a chance to win a free trip! http://www.imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/yahoo/default.aspx?locale=en-us&hmtagline