>1 not only are caches hid by plane but found by balloon as well

You must be referin' to GC4FBB! That was a cool cache. Of course, the math 
was all messed up and, quite frankly, it really isnt possible to throw some 
lightweight piece of ABS plastic tube out of an airplane and expect someone 
to know EXACTLY where it is gonna land... but... a few brave geocachers took 
up the challenge to try and find this cache. Team Sand Dollar had actually 
gotten the first to find. But found it a day after he was originally out 
there, after getting some clues from the cache owner. He had only been 50 
feet from it the day before! Not bad Loran! Empanege (the cache owner) 
actually updated the description and hint to help out. But for Loran (and 
myself), there was no help and we just had to search a huge area of desert. 
I actually went out there the next day after Team Sand Dollar found it, with 
no clues or extra hints, and was able to make the find. I actually made the 
find without any of the additional hints! :) But on a hot April afternoon, I 
spend a LONG time walking around aimlessly in the desert searching for 
something I didnt even know what! The desert in this area was rather sparse 
and very little vegetation. So there wasnt many places to hide one. The 
container was suppose to be laying out in the open (which it was when I 
found it)... but was still a serious challenge to find since there were no 
exact posted coords. I think the coords posted was where he threw it out, or 
something like that. Then the cache owner wanted you to do some math to find 
out where it landed.. what the speed of the airplane was and stuff like 
that. Well you also have to take into account varying wind directions and 
speeds at different altitude... none of which was stated on the cache page, 
and well.. quite frankly it is not really a solvable puzzle.. IMHO. I think 
the actual information given in the description stated the heading of the 
airplane and the speed of the plane. But I believe at the time that was all 
that was given. So, I just walked in that direction from the posted 
coordinates and searched and searched and searched some more until I found 
it! So, after Loran and then I and I think Wyle E was next to find it... the 
cache hint and description was updated to give a more exact location. As I 
look at this cache today... I see it is still active! Wow!!!! I found that 
in April of 2002!!! My first year geocaching! It was last found on January 
15th of this year by Graldrich and AZCactus. Before that find... it was last 
found by none other than Brian-Team AI on June 7, 2004! It went a year and a 
half without a find!!! Anyways, this cache brings back some fond memories of 
the fun days of geocaching!

A cache found by balloon? Who did that? You must be referin' to GCHPF8. :)

Scott
Team Ropingthewind


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