Yeah, I too was disappointed that we couldn't place it in a better location, but man...trying to push Earth like that with only Steve and I there, it just wasn't in the cards. The compromise was to place a physical marker made from items in the immediate area at the geographic center of the state +/- 6', then encourage cachers to make the 11.5 mile loop by summiting Pine Mountain and signing the peak log and hiking back down to find Stage2 of JTTCOTS on your way out. It was the best compromise we could come up with after finding out that the COTS was in a wilderness area, so don't complain Scott, or I might have to recruit some of the militia groups north of here to shoot down your balloon one day when you least expect it. :) Anyways, finding Stage 1 of JTTCOTS, summiting Pine Mountain for #1999 and finding the last part makes more sense for the finds if you look at the overall distance you would have to travel otherwise. It's 3.75 miles one-way and you would be doing quite a bit more than the 7.5 miles if you found JTTCOTS first, then hiked back in for Pine Mountain. Just a few things to chew on when you're making up your mind on what to do and how to do it. Brian Team A.I. -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Roping The Wind Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:32 PM To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] T824 Table Mesa cache >From: AZcachemeister > >Table Mesa is a fine cache, and certainly a must-do for every Arizona >Geocacher who can handle the terrain. Although the terrain is a bit >difficult, it's only a mile or so from the road. >With RTW's propensity for long, tough hikes, might I suggest making Pine >Mountain #1999, and then capping things off with JTTCOTS? >Whenever you decide to go there (assuming it's on a weekend!), let us know >and we'll tag along! Yea, I was a bit dissapointed that JTTCOTS cache wasnt on top of pine mountain. But I knew it was a wilderness. However, I didnt know there was a cache on Pine Mountain. So, yea... now I will make Pine Mountain #2000!!!! That sounds like a plan. Only two logs on that cache in well over a year and a half! I could throw in JTTCOTS cache as #1999... or maybe vice verse? :) Scott Team Ropingthewind ____________________________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching Arizona's Geocaching Resource http://www.azgeocaching.com DISCLAIMER: This message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender at either the e-mail address or by calling the telephone number associated with this transmission. Please delete this e-mail from your computer (or discard this fax). Thank You. ____________________________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching Arizona's Geocaching Resource http://www.azgeocaching.com