That site is still updated. I remember reading somewhere on there that they use PQs to gather data, so they are not affected by a spidering ban. Tim Team AZFastFeet ============================================================ From: "wogun" Date: 2005/11/02 Wed AM 09:18:57 EST To: Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] lost challenge point info Yes, thank you! _____ From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of AZcachemeister Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 7:10 AM To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] lost challenge point info Is this what you are looking for? wogun wrote: A few weeks ago our computer died and was laid to rest. We had a link saved on that system that referred us to a site which gave information about challenge points--both for cachers and caches! Can someone give me that link again? Also, I assume that info is no longer updated, as the source data is now behind geocaching.com's locked data doors? Is that right? Terry wogunhiker