They're probably MIA. Depending on the bumper, it would take one heck of an impact to tweak it, unless it's bump sensitive from certain directions/angles. I don't have airbags, but whatever is there would be gone with the 4x2 plate steel bumpers being built right now. I thought the sensors went under the hood near the grille to register the movement from there. As for bumpers useful for Jeepin', I was sandwiched on my way to work one day by a car that hit me at about 40mph. My foot was ejected from the brake pedal, and the energy transferred me into an Audi A6, which was promptly totaled. The bumperettes on the rear took the damage, with one completely collapsing in on itself, while the other merely bent downward and out slightly. A little hammering with a BFH, and it's good as new for the new bumper. The front bumper is bowed upward ever so slightly, with only a few obvious paint scratches. Total damage? $1300 (including the bike rack bent from the impact). Total damage to the other cars? Totaled x2. I wouldn't say the stock bumpers are all that weak exactly, and I have 2x 7000lb-rated tow hooks on the front to go with it. It's also confirmed that I have no frame damage. Go Jeep! :) Brian Team A.I. -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of dtanderson Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 2:25 PM To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] OT: Jeep question Please forgive my ignorance here, what happens to these guys who replace the factory bumber with a bumper that can actually be useful to jeepin'? Are the sendors in the bumper mounts? Daniel ---------- Original Message ----------- From: "Raphaella Emet" To: Sent: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 17:49:51 -0700 Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] OT: Jeep question > Most vehicles have the airbag sensors in the bumper. There have been > accidents where the bumper of the vehicle wasn't hurt even though the > vehicle was toast and the airbags never deployed because the sensors > didn't get the impact. > > VeloRacer > > -----Original Message----- > From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com > [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf > Of Brian Casteel Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 4:27 PM To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] OT: Jeep question > > I don't go fast at all when in 4LO. I think the stuff I've read > says never to even exceed 20mph or so or the t-case will grenade. > > Brian > Team A.I. > > -----Original Message----- > From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com > [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf > Of Roping The Wind Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 5:24 PM To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] OT: Jeep question > > >From: "Gordy & Barbie" > >Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > >To: , > >Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] OT: Jeep question > >Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 14:50:52 -0700 > > > >The air bag system is automatically disabled when the t-case is shifted > >into > >4-lo. > > > >If the air bag light is coming on, it indicates that there is a fault > >somewhere in the system, and should be investigated. The computer will tell > >you where the fault is, and an OBDII scanner should tell you what exactly > >is > >wrong. Technically, it is illegal to tamper with the air bag system on your > >vehicle in any way. > > This just got me thinking.... (imagine that!)..... I would think the > air bag > > 'should' be disabled when the vehicle goes into 4hi... or 4wd > period. In 4 low you are just basically crawling along and although > you might be bumping and bouncing.. I wouldnt think you would be > taking any jarring bounces going > > that slow... in 4 low, you are just crawling over rocks and such. > Now in 4 hi, you are likely traveling at a faster speed and if you > hit a bit of a bump at higher speeds, that could more likely > potentially cause the airbag to pop out. I dont know about the stock > gearing in a Jeep, but my truck in 4 > > low will not go over perhaps 5 mph!!!! :) > > Scott > Team Ropingthewind > > ____________________________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com > To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com > > DISCLAIMER: > This message is confidential, intended only for the named > recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or > exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the > intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, > distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If > you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), > please notify the sender at either the e-mail address or by calling > the telephone number associated with this transmission. 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