Jeff I can understand you feeling left out but your destructive behavior is not the way to get attention ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Casteel" To: Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] A new way to fake the numbers. > Last I checked, FTFs aren't tracked anywhere, since electronically there > is no way to verify if without having the logsheet in-hand. Trisha had it > right. There are bigger fish in this whole thing to worry about, rather > than simple terminology variances. > > Brian > Team A.I. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jared Ross" > To: ; > Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:02 PM > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] A new way to fake the numbers. > > >> >> Couldn't agree with Bill more. I've taken the last few >> minutes to "cool off" after reading your original post >> but my hands are still shaking with the jump in blood >> pressure. I obviously take this somewhat personal >> since AZFastFeet and I enjoy going FTF hunting >> together. It started when we were working together, we >> would leave for caches together, drive there together, >> search together, and find together. Being a mere >> milisecond off from when one of us finds it to the >> other makes no difference to us. So sorry if you think >> this calls our WHOLE caching record in to question, >> but just go ahead and audit us Cache Officer, I >> thought you were one of the first cachers against >> people trying to "police" others. And don't start >> thinking it's all about the competition, if you want, >> I'll stop recording what # of FTF it is for me. That's >> really for more of my personal records anyways, but it >> just helps to have it attached to the log that it >> corresponds to. There's an added adrenaline rush in >> finding a cache first, for me anyway. Seeing that >> blank log, it's just a thrill. Not sharing the FTF >> with the person(s) who I shared all that excitement >> with is just wrong. >> >> >> You keep caching your way, we'll keep caching ours. >> >> Jared >> >> --- Bill Nolan wrote: >> >>> Well, this is kind of why I don't log finds at all. >>> The whole competitive >>> numbers thing just doesn't float my boat. Suppose >>> that I go out cachine >>> today with a friend. We are in the same car. We >>> are working together. We >>> head for a cache, park the car, and hike to it >>> together. (There will >>> probably be a hike. I don't do urban caches.) We >>> arrive there at the same >>> time. You want us to maybe flip a coin? Well, no >>> flipping way. We found >>> it together. It is a co-find. I see nothing wrong >>> with that. >>> >>> >>> >>> Bill in Willcox >>> >>> >>> >>> _____ >>> >>> From: >>> az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com >>> >> [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] >>> On Behalf Of TEAM >>> 360 >>> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 4:12 PM >>> To: az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com >>> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] A new way to fake the >>> numbers. >>> >>> >>> >>> [rant] Now, just what in the heck is this garbage >>> about "Co-FTF" or a >>> "Shared FTF" I have been seeing on cache pages >>> lately? Just when I thought I >>> saw it all, another new way to inflate the numbers >>> comes along. What a >>> cheatin' way to pump up the FTF count!! >>> >>> >>> >>> Listen, there is NO such thing. The cacher who signs >>> the logsheet FIRST >>> should be the only one to claim the FTF. The other >>> cacher is SECOND-TO-FIND. >>> It is a fact of cache-finding that cannot be >>> changed. >>> >>> >>> >>> Anyone claiming a "Co-FTF" or "Shared FTF" casts >>> doubt on the rest of their >>> caching record, in my opinion...of course, so do the >>> people who hide caches >>> under sock puppet accounts and then go claim a find >>> on them, or people who >>> claim finds because they simply "got close", or did >>> maintenance on a cache >>> and posted another find on it, etc, etc...the list >>> goes on and on... [/rant] >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Do You Yahoo!? >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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