Gladdly, as it was explained to graldrich in email from myself, co_admin and other reviewers. As it was explained in the forum he started and as others have said. The guidelines changed because many land managers were getting pressure and they put the brakes on cache saturation. Since this is an arbitrary issue, we use a reviewers group to make decisions. Since it was thrown to the reviewers group and over 80% said it was a saturation issue, we explained very well to gradlrich why you cannot compare caches that were listed two years ago to caches of today. Just as anyone who has been around can tell you that in '02 and '03 you could waypoint a man hole cover in the street and make it a virtual, this cannot be done today. I explained in many long emails about how many states have started requiring a permit for every cache hidden on state property. This was not the case two years ago. I explained how many land managers look at the cache maps and say enough is enough and ban geocaching. Very little of this has actually made it to everyone, but in a nut shell, why can California have it and not Arizona? Because it was listed before the guidelines changed. Artemis On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 21:30:36 EST, AZBob@aol.com wrote: > > Well, since Artemis is watching this also, Artemis can you explain why they > can do it in California and we can't have the same in Arizona? Want to say > that I always thought I'd like to help in the approving department but know > someone has to make the rules and know I don't now.....I'm sure it very time > consuming and a no find job!! Still, if some can be accepted in some states > it should be that way for all and I think, if Guy puts together a great > trail it should be accepted. Can you explain California vs. Arizona?? > > Jeep'en Jumpers -- Volunteer Reviewer Geocaching.com ____________________________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching Arizona's Geocaching Resource http://www.azgeocaching.com