Brian,They will not let me place a power trail any where in the
state,it would not matter if there was not a home or cache within 50
miles.It would not matter if God approved it! If they would allow me
to place my out in the middle of nowhere I would do it in a New York
minute! If you all do not believe me please email Artemis or Coadmin
and they will confirm what I'm saying is true.

Guy


On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 17:57:15 -0800 (PST), TEAM 360 <team360usa@yahoo.com> wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> OK group, lets have a new issue!
> 
> 
> If you just want to slap your address-label-size 'I WAS HERE' 
> sticker, or perhaps use a 2" X 3" 'TEAM GAWDAWFULL' stamp in a normal 
> size logbook, by all means go ahead!
> If it's a micro-cache logsheet, and said sticker or stamp is going 
> to take up 3-4-5-(or maybe more) lines, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE be 
> considerate of fellow cachers and the cache owner, break out a talking 
> stick and practice your penmanship! 
> 
> Hear, hear...while doing maintenance on my "Canyon Lake Vista" cache today,
> Scott of RopingTheWind and I both had some choice words to say about a
> cacher who placed their sticker SIDEWAYS on the micrologsheet, taking up
> about 8 or 9 spaces...gee, why not just slap a full-sized bumper sticker
> with your team name across the whole front of the logsheet, and then drop me
> a note to say the logsheet is full??
> 
> 
> Good to hear T360 is still around, doesn't someone have a spare E-TREX 
> this guy can borrow?
> 
> Steve 
> 
> WHAA? You actually expect me to use a GARMIN?? Just kidding, all you Garmin
> lovers out there.... 
> 
>   
> 
> Actually, you forgot a huge part of what's been going on during the last few
> years with the local community. 
> 
> Nope, I remember the efforts of everyone quite clearly. Kudos for all that
> has been done. 
> Finally seeing more to graldrich's concept, I'm still on the fence.  With
> multiple teams participating, it's kind of a cool idea.  Depending on where
> it was that the concept was to be implemented could sway me either way. 
> There are 100 caches within 5.1 miles of the trailhead mentioned for that
> power trail.  This isn't even counting distances along the cache route, so I
> feel that in this case it would be a saturation.  Look up here, for example,
> and that might be different.  The cache count in this state overall is a
> fraction of Arizona.  Such a concept would probably do well up here, because
> the area overall is far from becoming saturated.  In that respect, I think
> it boils down to geography and caches already available, which I bet had
> something to do with the rejection of the initial concept, however it was
> presented. 
>   
> I was thinking the exact same thing, except I was comparing Arizona with
> California. When you look at those two, Arizona has a fraction of what is
> placed out in Cali. 
>   
> Would it really be any different what Groundspeak is doing if the
> headquarters was in Scottsdale, Glendale or even Tucson?  If the policy
> implementation was the same, would the ill will toward them still be at such
> a level?  Also, it appears that gc.com is more open to what's going on than
> you give them credit for.  More and more they are seeking input from Joe
> Cacher for developments of aspects of geocaching, but the group up there now
> is implementing policy for the betterment of the community, to prevent it
> from becoming a monster that cannot be controlled.  
>   
> If they are so open to "Joe Cacher", they should let graldrich place his
> Power Trail. 
> In the end, GC.com should let Arizonans decide what types of caches we want
> to hunt. I would have to say that a majority of us down here in warm, sunny
> AZ (oops, did I say THAT, Brian? Going into the 80's this week, by the
> way...still got snow up there? Hehehehe..) would like to see this Power
> Trail... 
>   
>  
> 
> I wish you a rapid resolution to the job hunt, Jeff. 
> 
> Steve 
> 
> Team Tierra Buena 
> 
> Many thanks for the kind thoughts...keeping my fingers crossed...
> 
> 
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