> Steve, the cache that prompted this discussion is GCMDB2 - Woody's > McDowell Adventure > > Tim > Team AZFastFeet Thanks, Tim. "Woody's" is definitely in the Regional Park. The $5 per vehicle entrance fee is another clue. Access to the Preserve is free. For now. I'm pretty sure as soon as they figure out how to manufacture a 36,400 acre electrically charged hermetic bubble that they can pull, Christo-like, over the Preserve, they'll realize that someone has to pay for it, too. When visiting the Preserve, please remember that weapons are prohibited. Not firearms. Weapons. I expect otherwise unemployable airport screeners will be at the Preserve access points any day now. Steve Team Tierra Buena