Sheesh Dirk, I had to take a long lunch break just to read your post.... :-) Of all the cachers I know, I think you may well be the most obsessive - but that's not a bad thing, especially in your case! In a little over a year, you've gotten well over 1000 caches. Yet, even before reading your last message, I had no doubts about whether or not it was "for the numbers". It was clearly not - it was for the caching experience as a whole. All I had to do was to read some of your logs to be convinced of that - you've generated quite a few of the most entertaining log entries that I've seen lately (and that doesn't even have to include your adventures on Razorback to be true.. %) ). I think it is great to see your kids out there having almost as much fun as you are too. Jim. Jim Scotti Lunar & Planetary Laboratory University of Arizona Tucson, AZ 85721 USA http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/