We agree with both of you, No Find, No Sign..  Several times my wife and 
I have been "In the area" only to come back several times to make the 
"Find"  I will give a newbie a little attitude if they don't know 
exactly how to log a "No Find" on the web site.  I have seen this a time 
or two.  Dropping a new container, NO that is plain wrong.

Bob and Linda Smith, Petite Elite

>> From: "ShadowAce" <hunting@shakabruddah.com>
>>
>> I am just wondering if anyone else has feedback on this for me?
>>
>>  This weekend while finding caches we found a container dropped in 
>> place by
>> another cacher. The reason was they could not find the container at the
>> cache site so they left one, signed the logs and claim a find..
>>
>>  Now we come along alittle later and find the container and check but it
>> only has the signature of the person leaving it.. We keep searching and
>> within 3 minutes find the REAL cache container.
>>
>>  Am I the only one who thinks this is lame? What about the next 
>> cacher that
>> comes by and logs the wrong one?
>>
>> Well, evil me, I took the replacement container home with me. I have 
>> also
>> emailed the cache owner to tell them that there cache is safe and 
>> sound. The
>> other cacher is just in too much of a hurry to have done a complete 
>> search..
>>
>>
>> Am I wrong to find this as one of the most lame movements cachers can 
>> do?
>
>
>
> I agree with you! That is lame. I applaud you for taking the 'new' and 
> unofficial cache with you and hope that the cache owner deletes the 
> find. Another thing that seriously irks me is when I see a log that 
> reads "saw the cache, but couldnt get it... claiming it as a find". 
> That too is lame in my opinion. Many urban cache these days would be 
> 'easily' had if you could say you saw it but couldnt log it. 90% of 
> the challenge on these micro urban caches these days is trying to get 
> it and log it, without being seen (a challenge I dont care for 
> anymore.. but that is just me). I NEVER log a find if my name cant be 
> in the logbook. NO LOG, NO FIND. I cant tell you how many times I have 
> gone for caches, saw them but couldnt get to them without giving it 
> away because of too many people in the area. I had to make several 
> trips before finally getting it. Then, I later see a log by someone 
> that says they saw it but couldnt get to it because too many people 
> around. Then, they claim it as a find. They are only cheating 
> themselves. I will continue to play in a way that is fair and honest 
> to me.
>
> Scott
> Team RTW