While you seem to only remember the failures, have you noticed the great successes that NASA has achieved. Limiting myself only to recent times (i.e., we won't get into the spectacular success of Apollo), did you happen to notice that the Cassini spacecraft went into orbit around Saturn and is returning wonderful data? There are 2 Mars Exploration Rovers still operating on the surface of Mars which have outlived their original mission requirements by about a factor of 3 in time now and traveled about 5 times farther than their design specifications. We have a spacecraft orbiting Mars returning the most spectacular orbital images ever seen of any planetary surface other than Earth. Speaking of which, did you see those wonderful images of Hurricane Frances taken from Earth orbit? While we are still down after the Columbia accident, did you notice that there were about 111 successful shuttle flights (about 85 consecutive successful flights since Challenger) with only 2 failures? Did you see that we just launched a spacecraft to Mercury which is operating normally on its way there? How about the recently completed Galileo mission to Jupiter? We've learned more about the geology of the moons of Jupiter than we knew about all the moons of the solar system combined before that mission. How about HST? It's been re-writing our knowledge of Astronomy as it continues to return top notch data on all types of objects in the Universe. An infrared telescope called the Spitzer Space Telescope was recently sent into space and has been returning some excellent data. The Stardust spacecraft recently flew past a comet, returning unprecidented images of such a primitive object. The NEAR spacecraft orbited asteroid Eros and completed its mission by soft landing on its surface. While one mars lander failed about 5 years ago, 5 out of 6 Mars landers that NASA has sent to the red planet have succeded in landing there and completing their missions. Most companies would dream of successes like NASAs, particularly considering how dangerous and risky spaceflight is. While spacecraft may fail sometimes, they often have already returned significant useful data and while Genesis crashed, the ingenious scientists and engineers on the mission will not only figure out why its parachutes did not deploy, but they are likely to actually get science out of the bits and pieces - perhaps not all the science, but at least some of what they were looking forward to. To claim that NASA is a joke is rediculous and short sighted. Jim. On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, TEAM 360 wrote: > Unbelievable..what a joke NASA is...if they were a private corporation, > they would have gone bankrupt a long time ago! What a waste of money, > huh? At least the crash pictures looked cool... I guess they should have > consulted Team Evilfish on how to make the chute pop.... > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! Jim Scotti Lunar & Planetary Laboratory University of Arizona Tucson, AZ 85721 USA http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/