Thank you, Brian.  FYI, SquishyGecko wasn't the only one to have received
the same phone calls...repeatedly from this Ron Adams character.  I received
them as well, but did not give him the time of day because I was never
extended any sort of courtesy and asked permission before being used as a
'character reference'.  Had I actually answered one of his calls, the guy
wouldn't have been able to call anyone for a week without a TTY device.

Brian
Team A.I.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Cluff" <brian@Snaptek.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Explanation and apology


> ShadowAce wrote:
> >   I did not however know this was your listserv, since it appears to be
so
> > and you are making rules on how we can communicate on the list, please
> > forgive me. I will hold all posts to myself.
>
> As the real owner of this mailing list I have gone through great
> lengths to keep any Spam (unsolicited mail) off the list.  I had never
> imagined that anyone would take someones information that was given to
> them in confidence off the list and try and use it for financial gain.
> I can only say this makes me extremely unhappy.
> I don't want to put my foot down and say NO business dealing with
> ANYONE on the list, but it sounds from Ken's own explanation that he was
> no more than a very casual acquaintance with Mr. Gecko and shouldn't
> have tried to have any business dealings with him at all.
> Trust me, I know what it's like to have no money.  I've personally
> lived out of my car for a short time, and had to eat ramen for 3 meals a
> day for almost a year because I couldn't afford more than 50 cents a day
> for food, and all I had was a microwave to cook with, when times were
> "good", so beans and or rice were out of the question. (in hind sight, I
> guess I could have cooked rice in the microwave.).  Being out of work
> for a long time is no excuse to start to bend the rules of common
courtesy.
> Anyway, I guess my point would be that you should ask permission
> before trying to do any business with ANYONE, and you should only ask
> permission of people you know.  Writing to people on a mailing list does
> NOT count as knowing them!  The people on this mailing list are only
> here for a few reasons and none of those reasons are to increase ANY of
> our salaries... including mine.
>
> Brian Cluff
> www.AzGeocaching.com
> Team Snaptek
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