Not really giving the guy an option to ask, nor to sell me anything, I don't know what the true motive is. What I do know from the messages he left, was that Ken had applied with them, and that they were wanting to talk to me to get a character reference in order to get him started. What exactly that means, and in what capacity, I do not know. Brian Team A.I. > > From: "George Harris" > Date: 2004/05/29 Sat AM 12:12:59 EDT > To: > Subject: ?Re: [Az-Geocaching] Use of Geocaching.com for commercial solicitation > > You can get penis enlargement pills on geocaching.com??!? Crap, don't let > Sweet Pea see that. She'll melt my credit card. > > I'm a little confused at this scenario. Was this a genuine character > reference call, or was the caller using the "character reference" comment to > get his foot in the door, with the only purpose to see insurance? > > And with the bad press Ken has been getting on this list lately, how in the > world could he use people on it for references?? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian - Team A.I." > To: > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 8:35 PM > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Use of Geocaching.com for commercial > solicitation > > > > I have a feeling I was one of the first on that list of people he's given > > them to call as a character reference. They've called several times, > > leaving messages on both my home and cellphones. The home phone I don't > > know if I ever gave Ken, but it is a listed number. As far as my > cellphone > > is concerned, I'm not sure where that number came into play, but they have > > been annoying in their frequency of calls, none of which I've answered > > (after hearing a voice mail they left on my home phone). > > > > In my experience, it's always customary to ASK a person you are using as a > > character reference, and to perhaps give them a call when the hiring > process > > is in full swing so the call from the employer for this type of > information > > isn't unexpected and doesn't catch you off guard. I was never asked to be > a > > character reference, and in all honesty I would refuse for the simple fact > > that I don't know him well enough to be any kind of character reference, > and > > my contact with him has been very limited. > > > > I am very disappointed on his actions for doing this to more than one > > person, and it does indeed appear that he neglected to ask permission to > use > > anyone as a character reference, and for the fact that Primerica is so > > aggressive in their tactics that as a secondary portion of the > conversation > > they try to sell you something like an insurance policy. Give me a > freaking > > break already. Knowing now that he's done this, I don't see it being a > bad > > idea at all to report this to Geocaching.com. It's no better than trying > to > > harvest e-mail addresses from the main site in an effort to sell penis > > enlargement pills. > > > > Brian > > Team A.I. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "SquishyGecko" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 3:18 PM > > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Use of Geocaching.com for commercial solicitation > > > > > > > This morning I received a telephone call from someone named Ron Adams, > > > stating that he was doing a "character reference" for Highpointer. > After > > > returning the call and informing Mr. Adams that I had never met > > Highpointer, > > > he proceeded to state that Highpointer had told Mr. Adams that I was > > married > > > with two children, then attempted to sell me an insurance policy. > > > > > > Not only do I consider this a gross misrepresentation on the part of Mr. > > > Adams, but a gross violation of my privacy by Highpointer. I will be > > > contacting Geocaching.com to determine what violations of Geocaching.com > > > regulations may have been committed by Highpointer. 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