OK, here's the skinny on rattlesnakes. First, they often do not rattle, so don't count on that. The defense is to be observant. They blend well, so look closely enough that you don't miss them. They won't chase you, but they think their best defense is to remain motionless, so they will stay right there until you step on them. Also, they hide under things, especially during the heat of the day, so be careful where you put your hands. There are a lot of critters under stones and logs besides rattlesnakes here in Arizoan. You may find scorpions, black widows, centipedes (they can really bite) or brown recluse spiders. If you do get bit by a rattlesnake, there is no IMMEDIATE danger. It isn't like a mamba or something, and you aren't going to die in a few minutes. It will be painful, but there is plenty of time to get to medical help. Rattlesnake venom causes mostly tissue necrosis, and that takes time. Try to keep from exercising as much as possible and get to a hospital, where they will administer anti-venin. The reason for not having someone suck on the wound has nothing to do with them being poisoned. The venom doesn't penetrate the skin and is not even dangerous in an open wound. The problem is that it doesn't really do any good, and the germs in the mouth of the person doing the sucking will just add infection to your snakebite wound. Rattlesnakes have complete control over how much venom they inject, so a bite from a really angry snake is likely to be more severe than one from a snake that is just moody. That means that a bite you get after harassing the snake for a while will be more serious, so don't do that. Snakesbites are rare, and most happen when the person is messing with the snake. The fatality rate is very low among those who are bitten, and most fatalities are small children. Still, it pays to be careful. Also, remember that several species of rattlesnakes are endangered and completely protected. If you harass one of them, the fine is pretty high. If there is anything else you want to know about rattlesnakes, just ask. My direct email address is bill@willcox.net. Bill -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Brian Cluff Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 1:44 PM To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Rattlesnakes SquishyGecko wrote: > I'm wondering just what exactly the signs of a rattlesnake in the > area are, other than the obvious rattle. The US Army survival guide says to try and squeeze as much of the poison out as possible. They also say NOT to try and suck it out because it will go right though the skin in your mouth and you'll end up with poison in 2 places, or 2 people poisoned. Thats all I can remember off the top of my head...