Would you have time to load the topo onto the GPS between now and 8 p.m.? ----- Original Message ----- From: "GUY ALDRICH" To: Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 6:50 PM Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Mummy's Surprise Rating : I edited the cache ,gave it a 2 terrain rating! : --- Andrew Ayre wrote: : > I agree with Trisha. I think it is better to be : > conservative than : > misleading. : > : > Andy : > : > : > -----Original Message----- : > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com : > : [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On : > Behalf Of : > Trisha : > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 5:54 PM : > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com : > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Mummy's Surprise Rating : > : > : > The terrain rating is supposed to be for the : > toughest part of the : > approach. : > : > I don't know about a 3, but it is NOT handicapped : > accessible if the : > wheelchair bound person can only get to within 50 : > feet. : > : > Why don't you just change it to a 2 or 1.5 and be : > done with it? There : > are a handful of physically handicapped (wheelchair, : > cane/mobility/short of breath) people who cache and : > can only do "1's". : > They expect it to be easy enough for wheelchair : > access. : > : > A 2 or 1.5 won't scare people off, just explain it : > in the description. : > : > Think about how you would feel if you were sitting : > in a wheelchair and : > tried to get your cache. Get it? I'm sure you would : > feel bad if you : > unintentionally ruined a handicapped cacher's day by : > the misleading : > rating. It's hard enough for some of them to get out : > at all. Of : > course, they are probably reading the logs and would : > realize that the : > rating is incorrect anyway. : > : > OK, 'nuff said. : > : > take care, : > Trisha : > : > : > On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:06:51 -0700 (PDT), GUY : > ALDRICH wrote: : > : > > : > > Your car should do the climbing!Then it's 400 feet : > of : > > flat road to within 50 feet of the cache!The last : > 50 : > > feet is a bushwack but ,it still no climb!So most : > of : > > it is a 1,now where the cache sits,it's a 3, : > uneven : > > unpaved the point is if I gave it a 3 rating : > people : > > would think you have climbing to do!I could do : > this : > > one in flipflops,for most other mountain trails I : > wear : > > good hiking boots!Now if you don't read the : > directions : > > and just bushwack,then it's a tough climb!! : > > : > > Guy : > > --- Trisha wrote: : > > > Hey Guy, : > > > : > > > How'rya doin'? : > > > : > > > Ahem....(butting in) Did you read Andy's note? : > > > Clayjar's rating system : > > > is not required, of course, but it does seem to : > be : > > > somewhat of a : > > > standard being used. : > > > : > > > Let's see. 1 = Handicapped ACCESSIBLE, terrain : > is : > > > likely to be PAVED, : > > > is relatively FLAT, and less than 1/2 mile. : > > > : > > > 2 = Terrain is generally along marked trails, : > there : > > > ARE NO STEEP : > > > ELEVATION changes or heavy undergrowth, less : > than 2 : > > > miles. : > > > : > > > Hm. : > > > : > > > I haven't been to this cache, but from the logs : > > > (some mention a short : > > > steep climb) it seems like bumping the terrain : > > > rating to at least a 2 : > > > might be more accurate and therefore avoid any : > > > confusion/complaints in : > > > the future. Pretty easy. Or, if there is a way : > to : > > > get within 50 feet : > > > without the steep climb, maybe a 1.5. : > > > : > > > Think. 50 feet might as well be 50 miles when : > you : > > > are wheelchair : > > > bound. "Accessible" logically means someone in a : > > > wheelchair can : > > > physically reach out and grab the cache. : > (/butting : > > > in) : > > > : > > > take care, : > > > Trisha "Lightning" : > > > Prescott : > > > : > > > : > > > : > > > : > > > : > > > : > > > On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:25:41 -0700 (PDT), GUY : > > > ALDRICH wrote: : > > > : > > > > : > > > > Andy IF you go the right way,you can use a : > > > wheelchair : > > > > to get within 50 ft of the cache!You must : > print : > > > out : > > > > and follow the cache page directions! : > > > > : > > > > : > > > > --- Andrew Ayre wrote: : > > > > > According to Clayjar's rating system, 1 star : > for : > > > > > terrain = wheelchair : > > > > > accessible. Although the rating system is a : > > > > > suggestion, was it suitable for : > > > > > a wheelchair? :) : > > > > > : > > > > > Andy : > > > > > : > > > > > : > > > > > -----Original Message----- : > > > > > From: : > > > az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com : > > > > > : > > > > : > > > : > > : > : [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On : > > > > > Behalf Of : > > > > > SquishyGecko : > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:38 PM : > > > > > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com : > > > > > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Mummy's : > Surprise : > > > > > (OUCH!) : > > > > > : > > > > > : > > > > > So on second thought, I decided to run up : > there : > > > this : > > > > > afternoon and grab it. : > > > > > Just got back from having a cactus : > surgically : > > > > > removed from my butt. Oh : > > > > > yeah, that's an easy one. No trail, no : > parking, : > > > and : > > > > > a whole bunch of loose : > > > > > rocks and jumping cactus. : > > > > > : > > > > > As a non-native to Arizona, I'm making the : > > > following : > > > > > decrees: : > > > > > : > > > > > Never, ever will I again attempt to hike : > where : > > > there : > > > > > is no trail. : > > > > > : > > > > > Never, ever will I attempt a non-urban : > Graldrich : > > > > > cache. : > > > > > : > > > > > Never, ever will I go up on a mountain for a : > > > "quick : > : === message truncated === : : : : : : __________________________________ : Do you Yahoo!? : Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! 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