Lately the problem I'm having isn't ratings, it's location. Either my caches aren't on specific public property, they're too visible to passersby, or the location is full of homeless types. I planted a new one, Gecko's Playground, with a difficulty of five. Unfortunately I'll be removing it since the homeless population seems to be a problem. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Ayre" To: Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 6:02 PM Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Mummy's Surprise Rating : I agree with Trisha. I think it is better to be conservative than : misleading. : : Andy : : : -----Original Message----- : From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com : [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of : Trisha : Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 5:54 PM : To: listserv@azgeocaching.com : Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Mummy's Surprise Rating : : : The terrain rating is supposed to be for the toughest part of the : approach. : : I don't know about a 3, but it is NOT handicapped accessible if the : wheelchair bound person can only get to within 50 feet. : : Why don't you just change it to a 2 or 1.5 and be done with it? There : are a handful of physically handicapped (wheelchair, : cane/mobility/short of breath) people who cache and can only do "1's". : They expect it to be easy enough for wheelchair access. : : A 2 or 1.5 won't scare people off, just explain it in the description. : : Think about how you would feel if you were sitting in a wheelchair and : tried to get your cache. Get it? I'm sure you would feel bad if you : unintentionally ruined a handicapped cacher's day by the misleading : rating. It's hard enough for some of them to get out at all. Of : course, they are probably reading the logs and would realize that the : rating is incorrect anyway. : : OK, 'nuff said. : : take care, : Trisha : : : On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:06:51 -0700 (PDT), GUY ALDRICH wrote: : : > : > Your car should do the climbing!Then it's 400 feet of : > flat road to within 50 feet of the cache!The last 50 : > feet is a bushwack but ,it still no climb!So most of : > it is a 1,now where the cache sits,it's a 3, uneven : > unpaved the point is if I gave it a 3 rating people : > would think you have climbing to do!I could do this : > one in flipflops,for most other mountain trails I wear : > good hiking boots!Now if you don't read the directions : > and just bushwack,then it's a tough climb!! : > : > Guy : > --- Trisha wrote: : > > Hey Guy, : > > : > > How'rya doin'? : > > : > > Ahem....(butting in) Did you read Andy's note? : > > Clayjar's rating system : > > is not required, of course, but it does seem to be : > > somewhat of a : > > standard being used. : > > : > > Let's see. 1 = Handicapped ACCESSIBLE, terrain is : > > likely to be PAVED, : > > is relatively FLAT, and less than 1/2 mile. : > > : > > 2 = Terrain is generally along marked trails, there : > > ARE NO STEEP : > > ELEVATION changes or heavy undergrowth, less than 2 : > > miles. : > > : > > Hm. : > > : > > I haven't been to this cache, but from the logs : > > (some mention a short : > > steep climb) it seems like bumping the terrain : > > rating to at least a 2 : > > might be more accurate and therefore avoid any : > > confusion/complaints in : > > the future. Pretty easy. Or, if there is a way to : > > get within 50 feet : > > without the steep climb, maybe a 1.5. : > > : > > Think. 50 feet might as well be 50 miles when you : > > are wheelchair : > > bound. "Accessible" logically means someone in a : > > wheelchair can : > > physically reach out and grab the cache. (/butting : > > in) : > > : > > take care, : > > Trisha "Lightning" : > > Prescott : > > : > > : > > : > > : > > : > > : > > On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:25:41 -0700 (PDT), GUY : > > ALDRICH wrote: : > > : > > > : > > > Andy IF you go the right way,you can use a : > > wheelchair : > > > to get within 50 ft of the cache!You must print : > > out : > > > and follow the cache page directions! : > > > : > > > : > > > --- Andrew Ayre wrote: : > > > > According to Clayjar's rating system, 1 star for : > > > > terrain = wheelchair : > > > > accessible. Although the rating system is a : > > > > suggestion, was it suitable for : > > > > a wheelchair? :) : > > > > : > > > > Andy : > > > > : > > > > : > > > > -----Original Message----- : > > > > From: : > > az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com : > > > > : > > > : > > : > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On : > > > > Behalf Of : > > > > SquishyGecko : > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:38 PM : > > > > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com : > > > > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Mummy's Surprise : > > > > (OUCH!) : > > > > : > > > > : > > > > So on second thought, I decided to run up there : > > this : > > > > afternoon and grab it. : > > > > Just got back from having a cactus surgically : > > > > removed from my butt. Oh : > > > > yeah, that's an easy one. No trail, no parking, : > > and : > > > > a whole bunch of loose : > > > > rocks and jumping cactus. : > > > > : > > > > As a non-native to Arizona, I'm making the : > > following : > > > > decrees: : > > > > : > > > > Never, ever will I again attempt to hike where : > > there : > > > > is no trail. : > > > > : > > > > Never, ever will I attempt a non-urban Graldrich : > > > > cache. : > > > > : > > > > Never, ever will I go up on a mountain for a : > > "quick : > > > > grab" without a damn : > > > > first aid kit, or at the least a pair of : > > tweezers. : > > > > : > > > > Off to pick the kid up from school and whine : > > some : > > > > more about how my butt : > > > > hurts. : > > > > : > > > > : > > > > : > > > > ----- Original Message ----- : > > > > From: "GUY ALDRICH" : > > > > To: : > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:24 AM : > > > > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Mummy's Surprise : > > > > : > > > > : > > > > : This is an EASY hike with fantastic views,I'm : > > very : > > > > : surprised this cache has had so few : > > visitors!You : > > > > can : > > > > : drive 90% of the climb!Try it,you'll like it! : > > > > : : > > > > : Guy : > > > > : : > > > > : : > > > > : > > > : > > : > : http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=5cda014b-43e0-4d58-93 : > > > > b7-8855a5d18e91 : > > > > : : > > > > : : > > > > : : > > > > : : > > > > : __________________________________ : > > > > : Do you Yahoo!? : > > > > : Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! : > > HotJobs : > > > > : : > > > > : > > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover : > > > > : : > > > > : > > > : > > : > ____________________________________________________________ : > > > > : Az-Geocaching mailing list : > > > > listserv@azgeocaching.com : > > > > : To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe : > > > > visit: : > > > > : : > > > > : > > > : > > : > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching : > > > > : : > > > > : Arizona's Geocaching Resource : > > > > : http://www.azgeocaching.com : > > > > : > > > > : > > > > --- : > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. : > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system : > > > > (http://www.grisoft.com). : > > > > Version: 6.0.669 / Virus Database: 431 - Release : > > > > Date: 4/26/2004 : > > > > : > > > > : > > > : > > : > ____________________________________________________________ : > > > > Az-Geocaching mailing list : > > listserv@azgeocaching.com : > > > > To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe : > > > > visit: : > > > > : > > > : > > : > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching : > > > > : > > > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource : > > > > http://www.azgeocaching.com : > > > > : > > > > : > > > : > > : > ____________________________________________________________ : > > > > Az-Geocaching mailing list : > > listserv@azgeocaching.com : > > > > To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe : > > > > visit: : > > > > : > > > : > > : > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching : > > > > : > > > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource : > > > > http://www.azgeocaching.com : > > > : > > > : > > : > === message truncated === : > : > : > : > : > : > __________________________________ : > Do you Yahoo!? : > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! 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