Some one mentioned that if you have a valid hunting license, that is only true if you are actively hunting, with a gun scouting does not count. If not you are considered trespassing. I would also recommend the permit. Tres Hombres -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-request@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-request@listserv.azgeocaching.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 12:05 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com Subject: Az-Geocaching digest, Vol 1 #1751 - 10 msgs Send Az-Geocaching mailing list submissions to az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to az-geocaching-request@listserv.azgeocaching.com You can reach the person managing the list at az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Az-Geocaching digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: trust land permits (William Noll) 2. RE: trust land (Team Tierra Buena) 3. Re: trust land permits (EvilFISH) 4. Re: trust land permits (EvilFISH) 5. RE: trust land permits (ShadowAce) 6. Law Enforcement Cachers (ShadowAce) 7. Re: Law Enforcement Cachers (Brian - Team A.I.) 8. cant get into azgeocaching still (Gale) 9. RE: trust land permits (William Noll) 10. Notacon (Brian - Team A.I.) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "William Noll" To: Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] trust land permits Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:27:52 -0700 Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com A valid Arizona hunting license will also allow you on State Trust Lands (it's a little more, though, $25.50). If you have one, you really don't need the recreation permit. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Team Tierra Buena" To: Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] trust land Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:32:10 -0700 Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > so the questions begins... shouldn't there be a better way to determine > land ownership? is there a good website or some sort of free map > available? can a Trust Land Permit be obtained over the phone or internet? Someone's already pointed out how to get the permit, but this site has all the details: http://www.land.state.az.us/programs/natural/rec_offroad_permit.htm The State Land Department (AKA "The Land Trust") has no objection to Geocaching. But caching or otherwise, you can be nicked for a pretty hefty fine if you are found on Trust Land without the permit, so it's a pretty good investment of fifteen or twenty dollars. For most folks that's probably less than the gas it costs to drive to a patch of Trust Land these days. Steve Team Tierra Buena --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "EvilFISH" To: Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] trust land permits Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:47:13 -0700 Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Where did you find this little jewel of information? ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Noll" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:27 PM Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] trust land permits > A valid Arizona hunting license will also allow you on State Trust Lands > (it's a little more, though, $25.50). If you have one, you really don't need > the recreation permit. > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com > To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "EvilFISH" To: Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] trust land permits Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:37:43 -0700 Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com I guess this answers the other question I had as well http://www.gf.state.az.us/outdoor_recreation/or_faqs.html Question Do I need a permit to operate my OHV on State Trust Land? Answer Yes. You must have a recreational permit or a hunting or fishing license to be on State Land. However, a hunting or fishing license is valid only if you are actively engaged in hunting or fishing. Recreational Permits are available for individuals and families and are issued for one year from the date of purchase. The Individual Permit is $15.00 and the Family Permit is $20.00. Non-profit group and event recreational permits are also available. They require a different permit and usually require a longer processing time. You may pick up your recreational permit in person at the State Land Department main office at 1616 West Adams, Phoenix AZ 85007. Permit applications can also be requested by mail or by telephone during normal business hours by calling (602) 364-2753. ----- Original Message ----- From: "EvilFISH" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] trust land permits > Where did you find this little jewel of information? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Noll" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:27 PM > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] trust land permits > > > > A valid Arizona hunting license will also allow you on State Trust Lands > > (it's a little more, though, $25.50). If you have one, you really don't > need > > the recreation permit. > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com > > To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: > > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > > http://www.azgeocaching.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com > To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com > --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "ShadowAce" To: Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] trust land permits Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:50:34 -0700 Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com As pointed out by Evil Fish.. Having the fishing license in hand while not having a pole or being anywhere near water will not count. You have to be doing whatever the sport is.. ie: A deer hunting permit from last season will not get you anything nor will walking with a fishing pole 10 miles from the nearest water source. Permits can be obtained on a walk in basis. I had mine and was out of the office in less then 10 minutes. -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of William Noll Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:28 PM To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] trust land permits A valid Arizona hunting license will also allow you on State Trust Lands (it's a little more, though, $25.50). If you have one, you really don't need the recreation permit. ____________________________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching Arizona's Geocaching Resource http://www.azgeocaching.com --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "ShadowAce" To: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 20:38:40 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Law Enforcement Cachers Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Hello.. I am currently holding a Travel Bug that wants to go to Scottland Yard and it wants to meet police along the way.. Anyone know of any Geocaching police? (I do mean real and paid law enforcement officers, not geocachers who police after others :-} ) It would be nice to find someone between Casa Grande and Benson that I can pass this off to just to keep the spirit of the bug moving.. Thanks ShadowAce --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Brian - Team A.I." To: Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Law Enforcement Cachers Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:27:18 -0700 Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Well, I'm not sworn, but work for DPS. :) I'm the 'other end of the radio' for all the officer in metro Phoenix at hours when only vampires should be awake. I could certainly arrange for the TB to be in the presence of uniformed officers, or it could spend a shift with me at work, helping keep my squads safe. Brian Team A.I. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ShadowAce" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 8:38 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Law Enforcement Cachers > Hello.. I am currently holding a Travel Bug that wants to go to Scottland > Yard and it wants to meet police along the way.. > > Anyone know of any Geocaching police? (I do mean real and paid law > enforcement officers, not geocachers who police after others :-} ) > > It would be nice to find someone between Casa Grande and Benson that I can > pass this off to just to keep the spirit of the bug moving.. > > Thanks > > ShadowAce > > ____________________________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com > To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com > --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:35:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Gale To: list Subject: [Az-Geocaching] cant get into azgeocaching still Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com --0-1153168544-1082522123=:81098 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I hate to trouble you guys, but can one of you from azgeocaching .com help me out? I cant get into the website, and Im not sure why. Please contact me privately so we can not trouble anyone else. Thanks Tsegi Mike and Desert Viking Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so: "Something hidden. Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges -- "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!" Rudyard Kipling , The Explorer 1898 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25c --0-1153168544-1082522123=:81098 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I hate to trouble you guys, but can one of you from azgeocaching .com help me out? I cant get into the website, and Im not sure why. Please contact me privately so we can not trouble anyone else. Thanks


Tsegi Mike and Desert Viking
 
Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Rangees. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"
 
Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898

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Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25c --0-1153168544-1082522123=:81098-- --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "William Noll" To: Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] trust land permits Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 06:52:08 -0700 Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Part of hunting is pre-season scouting. So even when not in season, and with no implement in hand, it is still considered 'hunting', and you do not need a rec permit. Now fishing is another matter... As pointed out by Evil Fish.. Having the fishing license in hand while not having a pole or being anywhere near water will not count. You have to be doing whatever the sport is.. ie: A deer hunting permit from last season will not get you anything nor will walking with a fishing pole 10 miles from the nearest water source. --__--__-- Message: 10 From: "Brian - Team A.I." Organization: Arizona Geocacher To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 14:45:08 -0400 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Notacon Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com I found a link to this site from fark.com. Check out Contests: http://www.notacon.org/basics.html Brian Team A.I. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching Arizona's Geocaching Resource http://www.azgeocaching.com End of Az-Geocaching Digest