I also agree....I love to read good logs. Dan, you are so right, the pleasure of reading about the experience IS the cache hider's reward. To that end, check out my new cache "Dream Prize Cache" in the Prescott area....waypoint GCHQAB, and point of the cache, good logs! (and a unique experience, and who knows what one may find at the end of the rainbow??) It's a very good cache, you may want to try and find it, IF you can!! Trisha "Lightning" Prescott On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 13:34:39 -0700, "RAND HARDIN" wrote: Dan,   I agree with what you wrote.  You couldn't have stated it any better.   I tried your link - but something's missing.   Rand   ----- Original Message ----- From: Koch, Dan Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 11:23 AM To: 'listserv@azgeocaching.com' Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] HAHAHA!!!!  (Sarcasm noted but since you asked...)Think about why the 'Sloof Lirpa' and 'Da Bomb' were caches sopopular....because people wanted to read the logs!There was a time when the online logs were actually interesting to read.  I,and probably many others, used to read the 'Recently Logged Visits' page ongeocaching.com or the 'AZ Cache Activity' page on azgeocaching.com to readabout others caching adventurers.  Or maybe it was just me... :)  But, as time went on, and as more cachers and caches got involved, the logs,like the caches themselves, 'devolved' (thanks Tierra Buena...love thatphrase!) into nothing more than "Quick easy find. TN/LN/SL.".  Don't get me wrong, there are cachers that aren't 'minimalist loggers'.  Inparticular, RopingTheWind used to write what I called novellas and he took alot of grief about it.  But, his logs were quite extensive and were veryenjoyable to read.  As a more recent example, look at Sprockets 'chain logs'where he tells a story that encompasses the entire day, even about beingaccosted by the Mexican Policia! :)  Look up a cacher in SoCal by the nameof 'Yrium' if you really want to read some entertaining logs.  Here's hislog for a mundane urban cache:http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LUID=4ce54865-1dc2-48ca-9b12-bb3562f936caNow, I will agree that some caches are hard to find anything interestingabout, and I myself have had many caches where all I could do was a shortlog for my finds, especially when it's a 20 cache day.  Heck, I usuallydon't even get around to posting my logs for a couple of days and by thensome details have already faded.  But when I can, I try to do some write upto so there's more than one sentence.  Cache owners get notified wheneversomeone posts a log to one of their caches and for the most part, this isthe only feedback the owners get.  I know I enjoy reading the adventurersthat people have when looking for my caches, found or not. Also, I'm sure that most cachers have caches on their 'watchlist'. Why doesanyone put a cache on their 'Watchlist'?  To read the logs.  Either theyhave found it and use the watchlist notifications to be reminded of it, orthey want to find it someday and use the notifications to keep tabs on thestatus of the cache or to read about the (mis)adventures of those that havefound it.Another reason I try to write more than a sentence or two is that if I goback and read my logs, I can easily remember the cache, where it was hidden,what was going on around us and any adventurers we had getting there.  If Igo back and read one of my logs and I can't remember the cache, I know Ididn't write a good log.  The log that Scott pointed out was a bitextravagant, but it made the cache memorable for me, the cache owner and thecacher I was with both enjoyed it (see the cache page) and obviously othercachers did as well.I'm sure TeamAI and RtW could write some very interesting logs about aconvertible during a recent caching trip along the Beeline(?)... :)whew...LazyK - Dan