there is also the fact that a County Park Police should not be telling anyone what is or is not allowed on NATIONAL FOREST...... ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Noll" To: Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Who Manages What > Many people in this state are already 'effectively' on such a list, > based on where they live. Where they live, of course, is by their choice; > and I made my choice to live half an hour away from the nearest Sheriff > station (but not for that reason!) I have to provide for my own 'first > response' in the event of assault / break-in, fire, or natural disaster. > Pity the soul who 'chooses' to pick me as a target. > Obviously this is a touchy topic for some. But the issue is law > enforcement harassment of geocachers (intentional or not). You should not > expect to be harassed by a cop / ranger for just 'being' in a certain place, > especially when there is no obvious reason you would be approached in the > first place. My original point was also that since placing a geocache could > be construed as 'littering', there are far more significant (and obvious) > sources of litter than Joe Blow walking around the desert. > The bottom line is this: as long as you are 'obviously' not in the > process of a crime, you do not need to explain yourself to law enforcement. > Geocachers should not be put on the spot for 'being'. Since the rules of the > game require some form of land agent notification, and geocaches for all > intents-and-purposes are open (public) and benign, you should not have to > explain your actions under duress to an uninformed agent of the state. > > Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian LaFrance" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 10:09 AM > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Who Manages What > > > > Maybe we could start a "Do not respond" list for people like this who do > not > > appreciate the work law enforcement officers are doing. When someone on > the > > list dials 911 because they have an intruder in the house or something > else > > that requires a response, the operator could decline service to them so > they > > can suffer :). If you don't think that officers are needed where you > live, > > please let me know where it is you live so I can move there tomorrow and > > enjoy the dreamland you think you live in. I live in a peaceful suburban > > neighborhood, but there is still a need for law enforcement...which isn't > > all that officers do (i.e. Locate missing children, help the needy, > motorist > > assistance). > > ____________________________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com > To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com