I can't wait until they make driving with a cell phone illegal. It seems to me that some people people won't do something that is common sense unless there is a law against it. If nobody drove and talked on a cell phone, then I don't think there would be a need for a law, but this isn't the way the world appears to work. So that is one more law that I personally would be glad to see. Andy -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Scott Wood Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 11:25 AM To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Law Enforcement Law enforcement is a thankless job, but I believe that the cops bring a lot of that upon themselves. We seem to forget that our safety should fall on our own shoulders first and that we should be responsible for our own safety. If I wake up in the middle of the night and there is an intruder in my house threatening the safety and lives of my family, I am not going to cower in the corner and wait for a cop to come as save us, it is my responsibility to protect myself and my family. I am not sure I want to live in a society where there are enough law enforcement officers to make sure that crime never happens. One of the problems is that we as a society are making more and more things illegal, thus giving a finite number of police officers more and more things that they feel they need to be on the look out for. I think this recent situation is a perfect example of just that, this cop seemed to feel that geocaching was a pretty serious offense if he told them that if they said they were geocaching they would be arrested, heck, I doubt it would have been anything more than a citable offense if it were infact illegal. There is a different between being cited for something and being arrested. I never buy the argument that we don't have enough cops on the streets, but I do see a big problem with the training that our current cops get, or I should say the lack of training they get. I deputy friend of mine down here in Pima was telling me that there is a 1 year waiting list to get time to shot on the county range unless you are doing your qualification shooting. Lawmakers at every level like to make laws, but they fail to realize what those laws do to the people that have to enforce them. Having more and more cops won't change the fact that there are simply too many laws on the books, and when I cop realizes that they can cite/arrest a person for just about anything anymore, I believe that is where a lot of the us vs. them attitude comes from. I'll get off my soap box now. Scott scott@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com ____________________________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching Arizona's Geocaching Resource http://www.azgeocaching.com