I have no problems with virtuals but I can see why they try to limit them. A lot of the early virtual where placed by cachers on vacation that knew that they could not maintain a traditional cache. Many of these spots would make a great traditional or a stage of a multi but since a virtual was there that was no longer an option. The main type of cache was one with a container but the sport grew to include other types. Virtuals are nice and have there place but if a container can be placed there it should. So the simple rule of thumb is that if the site is suitable for a container it should have one. And if it has a container it should be maintained. Virtuals should only be placed when there is no other options. I totally agree with the no vacation rule because I've seen to many caches that go to trash because there is no one to maintain it. Yes I still have a cache in AZ and no I can not personally can not maintain it. But I have made arrangements with another team to check on it if there is a problem. Some day I do hole to be able to return but for now it is still active so I will leave it. Team Sand Dollar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol King" To: Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 9:58 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Co Admin > I agree with Scott - CO admin may be nice, but he sure is a control > freak! After trying to place a really neat virtual in CO instead of a > traditional as we are only up there once a year, I got put down for not > making it a traditional, and then he denied it because it was a > "vacation" cache anyway. I think their new rule about vacation caches is > unfair and vague - especially for those of us who travel in RV's > extensively. What if we have a home state like TX because of taxes, but > spend our summers in CO, UT and MN(or others), and winter in AZ? Are we > stuck to placing caches only in TX, and what is our perimeter, 25, 50 > miles of our PO Box address or the whole state? Why are they so against > virtuals, which are usually very educational and entertaining? I just > don't understand their reasoning, and what recourse do we the cachers > have? Does anyone know where we can express our opinion? Regards, Team > Safari > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com > To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com