Brian, How much total data do you believe is being grabbed from geocaching.com daily when you were pulling the 'usual' stuff? Brian Team A.I. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Cluff" To: Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Suggestion for statistics > I would prefer to just get them let us contiunue to do business as usual. > They HAD to have made more money on the existance of azgeocaching.com > than the money they can claim they were loosing if we weren't around, > not to mention that azgeocaching.com off loads a heck of a lot more > bandwidth than it's taking up by crawling the official site. > There have also been a ton of people that wanted to donate to us in the > past that we just asked to get a membership instead. Without > geocaching.com's data our site is very boreing. Jason and I feel that > it's in their best interest in let us continue on as usual as I feel > those same people will probably just not renew their membership in > protest of us getting shut down potentialy costing geocaching.com thousands. > > I would be open to starting our own deal, but thats just way more work > and responsibility that I would like to deal with, and it probably > doesn't have the numbers of people behind it to potentially make it > profitable, so it would be a TON of time that just HAD to be put into > it. Don't get me wrong, I love doing azgeocaching.com, but there are > some days that I just don't even want to look at it. I wouldn't want to > run a site that absolutly required maintainace every day without a > little something extra to make it worth my while, and help pay the > bills. Spreading out the site is a good idea, but it doesn't get rid o > the fact that the site, however small it is would still need to be > maintained, and having to do a couple of things a day is almost more > annoying than haveing to do a bunch of things. Thats always been the > nice thing about azgeocaching.com, that for the most part, it's been > self maintaining. We could spend as much or as little time as our > schedules dictated, and this time of the year it's been a real blessing > to not HAVE to babysit a website. > > Anyway, I guess it would take some further discussion. > > Brian Cluff > Team Snaptek > > Brian LaFrance wrote: > > I'm all for starting our own open source version specific to Arizona...if we > > could get enough resources together, it might be kind of fun to try. > > > > Brian > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com > > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Jason > > Poulter > > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:33 PM > > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Suggestion for statistics > > > > > > maybe we should just dump geocaching.com all together and write our own > > site!!! ;) > > > > or at least a distributed database that everyone and anyone could setup > > and access all over the world with open source code etc... > > > > jason > > > > > > > > Brian LaFrance wrote: > > > > > >>Maybe we could figure out a way to distribute the workload across several > >>servers. I also have a server that I could run the code on. It may be > >>something where we could each query a range of cache numbers, user ID's, or > >>some other way of breaking the load up. Not sure if that would help > > > > though. > > > >>We all may end up banned from scraping data off Geocaching.com...it could > > > > be > > > >>a fun project to try though. > >> > >>Brian > >>Team AZEvil > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com > >>[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of > >>bcasteel@cox.net > >>Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:35 PM > >>To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > >>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Suggestion for statistics > >> > >> > >>That's a good idea, in theory. However, not every cacher can write code > >>like the Snaptek guys, nor can everyone understand how to run a script of > >>this nature. If they gave me the code, I'd gladly throw it up on my server > >>to run, and all would be happy. :) > >> > >>Brian > >>Team A.I. > >> > >> > >> > >>>From: Bob Renner > >>>Date: 2003/09/04 Thu PM 05:34:29 EDT > >>>To: Arizona Geocaching List > >>>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Suggestion for statistics > >>> > >>>Jason, > >>> > >>>I realize this would be a total rewrite of your > >>>statistics gathering software, but it might be a way > >>>to lessen the load it puts on the geocaching.com > >>>website. Instead of crawling the entire data base, go > >>>to the individual profile pages of Arizona geocachers, > >>>and get the information from the "User Stats" pages. > >>>Anyone who wants to have their information included > >>>into the AZgeocaching web page, would have to tell you > >>>to include them in your list. You could still include > >>>the logs of others on the caches within Arizona. > >>> > >>>Another, approach would be for you to provide the code > >>>for Arizona geocachers to run on their own computers > >>>to get their basic information from geocaching.com and > >>>then automatically forward this to you to be compiled > >>>into one database. The advantage of this would be > >>>that the load on geocaching.com would be from multiple > >>>IP addresses and only when a user knows his/her stats > >>>need to be updated (i.e. when they have found or > >>>placed a new cache). > >>> > >>>Just a thought that might help get around any blocking > >>>you are experiencing. > >>> > >>>Bob Renner > >>> > >>>__________________________________ > >>>Do you Yahoo!? > >>>Yahoo! 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