Hi all, I thought I'd take this opportunity to remind everyone to be careful around any caches that are in areas that could be good habitat for rattlesnakes (and I guess you should be careful of scorpions, black widows, etc....some of these "urban micros" require reaching into likely critter spots). This fall/wet weather seems to bring them out in the daytime. I recently had a face-to-face with a LARGE Western Diamondback Rattlesnake up on the Agua Fria near Black Canyon City. See GCGK5D. I imagine there are areas in the metro Phoenix area where you could find pit-vipers, but take special care in the boonies. It was kinda funny....I'm not afraid of snakes and, having quite a bit of reptile and walking-in-the-middle-of-nowhere experience, I walk carefully, and noisily. Luckily! It gave this big guy time to rattle and move off to hide. I was innocently following the GPS to the cache while hubby was taking a pic of a pretty cactus about 20 feet behind me when he heard the rattle (cicadas were in the trees, but this was louder) and then heard me calmly say, "Um, we have a rattlesnake in the way, right there...a big one." By the time he walked to where I was stopped in my tracks and watching the snake, he wasn't able to get a pic (it went under a rock). I pick up non-poisonous snakes, Steve Irwin style, just for fun, but rattlers deserve a respectful distance. The other humorous part was that we were on the way to the DBacks game...and ran into a Diamondback, and we did NOT want this one's autograph!! Have fun and BE SAFE OUT THERE!! Trisha "Lightning1996YCJP" Prescott